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You have a photo album – one, which you showed me with a mix of chagrin and disbelief, years ago….And you asked me about my lot, and they stirred in me, as even the driest leaf stirs, as petals and newspaper cuttings do, the whispering dead. They ached and hurt like nerve-ends still firing in an amputated limb, and you saw me go pale, and you said, you don't have to talk about it. And because of that I could, a little. I told you about Kath; as my only sibling, a sliver of the truth. She paints, she's an artist. Lives alone up in Scotland. I think she was married once but... We exchange Christmas cards, sometimes with a letter in them. Sometimes not. You might get to meet her one day, mate. You'd like Kath.
CI5 agent Ray Doyle has received what should be an innocuous invitation from his artist sister, who he hasn’t seen in some years, to her first London exhibition. And with that invitation, Doyle’s carefully constructed world is slowly, but surely, crumbling away. He begins to act increasingly odd -- making tiny, potentially fatal mistakes on the job, apparently wandering all unknowing into a gay pub, and suffering blackouts.
Title: All These Years
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Warnings: rape, child sexual abuse
Angelfish’s third fan fiction is a harrowing and sometimes heartbreaking story of romance and recovery. Her Doyle is a survivor of appalling sexual abuse and incest. He’s suffered serious psychological damage but he’s learned to compensate so well that no one -- not even his partner and best friend -- is aware. In fact, the only person still (sort of) in his life who does know how damaged he is, is his sister Kathie -- also a survior of the same sexual and incestual abuse. Unsurprisingly, Kathie is no model of mental health herself.
So you’re probably thinking…wow, cheerful choice, Josh. Thanks!
And the first time I read All These Years, I was frankly dismayed. I get squeamish about the lads being too drastically hurt, and the damage here was clearly catastrophic. Doyle functions, but his sanity is barely held together by strings and sealing wax and other fancy stuff. Bodie, on the other hand, is a beautiful creation -- the CI5 version of knight in shining armor. He’s tough and tender, brave and funny and strong, fiercely protective of his partner of several years. I love the partnership she illustrates -- the friendship that has seen them through good times and bad, a friendship that has slowly turned to love of a different nature while neither was looking.
And of course this transitioning love is only making matters worse for Doyle.
In the dream, Bodie did not leave. When he stood up beside the bed, it was only to undress, which he did swiftly and in silence. Then the weight of his body came warmly to rest on Doyle's back. To conjure the biology of it, the physical detail of penetration, would have twisted the dream into nightmare and woken him – he had been too used, too degraded, to bear much reality – so his mind simply delivered the upshot: Bodie inside him, comfortably deep. Doyle moaned against the pillow and pushed up. "Fuck me," he whispered, and felt a tidal movement. "Fuck me, Bodie."
He came hard and did not wake up straight away. By the time he did, he was lying in cooling semen and sweat, and the dream flapped brilliant butterfly-wings around him, then because he was on his sanity's knife-edge and could not afford it, folded itself to a two-dimensional greyness, flipped to a single plane and disappeared.
Doyle and Bodie attend Kathie’s art exhibition and Bodie, who has reluctantly had to accept that the relationship he would ultimately like with Doyle is simply not possible -- that he must be content with their deep friendship and partnership -- is bowled over by this brilliant artist who has the added attraction of being very like a female version of her younger brother. Kathie is also a wonderful creation. She’s smart and strong and a survivor -- but she’s harder and more manipulative than Doyle. She’s not, by any stretch, a Mary Sue. As a reader I disliked and admired her at the same time.
Her green eyes fixed on Ray were as remote from human concern as a mountain-lion's. Jesus, Bodie thought: no wonder he was nervous. This one's big trouble, and as she came stalking through the last of the crowd, he took an unconscious step forward and left to half-shield him with his shoulder. About a yard from where they stood, she halted as if registering his signal but not his presence: her gaze was burningly focused on Doyle.
The characterizations in All These Years are very, very good. Though this Doyle is flirting with a complete breakdown, on the job and in most of the scenes where he interacts with others, he is recognizably Doyle -- tough and efficient and wryly self-aware. He recognizes he’s too damaged to give Bodie what he needs, he fights his jealousy of Bodie’s deepening relationship with Kathie, and he tries to be happy and supportive of the two people he loves best in the world, but as Bodie’s feelings for Kathie deepen and he inevitably withdraws some of his attention and companionship from his partner, Doyle slides closer and closer to the edge.
When Bodie and Kath announce their engagement matters reach crisis point.
It’s a relatively simple story from a plot standpoint, but the emotional and psychological complexity turn this into something very strong and rather unique. The writing is some of the most beautiful -- even sublime -- I’ve read in the fandom.
But Angelfish does have her weaknesses. There is a scene with Ann Holly that feels forced, and another scene with Murphy that seems to come out of nowhere. And typically she rushes endings. Here, in the climactic scene between Doyle and Bodie -- the scene we’ve waded through 230K to get to -- she gives it to us second-hand and abbreviated.
The trolley was halfway through the double doors into theatre, Doyle barely conscious from bloodloss and pre-med. The medical staff in attendance were not impressed with Bodie's timing but they were ghosts to him, voiceless, barely visible. Those who dealt with repairs to Cowley's small army on a regular basis were not deeply surprised at the big, pale man's short and unequivocal declaration, nor that it somehow brought Ray Doyle smiling back from the brink.
The first time I read it, I howled my outrage.
There are some problems with pronouns -- sometimes it’s unclear who’s speaking -- and not everyone will enjoy the omniscient POV (although I personally think it’s appropriate for fan fiction in that mirrors the camera -- and I think she handles it very well). The other problem is her inability to end the story. The final scenes of reconciliation -- the reader pay-off scenes -- are hurried, and then we have three distinct endings. Two of them are gorgeous. One of them feels tacked on -- and taught me to read fan fic endings first. A lesson I firmly adhere to.
(As a matter of fact, I chopped the final ending of All These Years off when I printed it out long ago and had pretty much forgotten about it until I started writing this summary and realized that ending might come as a jolt to some of you. So, er, sorry about that!)
Despite my initial discomfort, I’ve read this story many, many times. It’s now one of my all-time favorites -- probably within the top five. Funny how that sometimes happens. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the rec!
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Date: 2010-02-03 07:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-03 08:32 am (UTC)Of course, nobody who doesn't want to share the discussion, should be 'forced' to see the warning.
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Date: 2010-02-03 08:37 am (UTC)You know where to find the spoilers here though, right? Under the cut etc - so you can be as heavily spoiled as you like, as long as (as you say *g*) it's not forced on others!
Unfortunately it really is being forced on them at the moment...
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Date: 2010-02-03 05:06 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-02-03 08:23 am (UTC)I love heavy spoiling! So - I have the day 'snow free' - now I read your rec properly - then the story!
Perfect! :-)
(But I already can agree that it IS sometimes unclear who's speaking, although I normally enjoy omniscient POV.)
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Date: 2010-02-03 04:21 pm (UTC)I love heavy spoiling! So - I have the day 'snow free' - now I read your rec properly - then the story!
Hanging my head in shame. I do think spoilers are inevitable in serious review or discussion of a story, but I did intent to have them under the cut. I forgot about the warning.
Perfect! :-)
(But I already can agree that it IS sometimes unclear who's speaking, although I normally enjoy omniscient POV.)
Other than the minimal and sometimes confusing lack of names, she does a nice job with it -- but then I am partial to it (when it's done well).
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Date: 2010-02-03 09:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-03 05:07 pm (UTC)So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for reading.
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Date: 2010-02-03 10:14 am (UTC)P.S. But I thought this was Wednesday - did I miss a warning about an early start?
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Date: 2010-02-03 05:13 pm (UTC)She's meticulous about her research, which is another thing I appreciate in a writer.
even if it's a bit heavy-handed at times. I can read this fic again (not something I do often) finding different aspects to focus on and enjoy.
For me as well. The sex scenes are lovely -- lyrical and sensual. The actiony on-the-job scenes are done well too. You don't often get that combo.
It's quite complex and satisfyingly long. The writing is very assured with brilliant descriptions and lots of tension. I agree with the points in your review, especially in regard to Anne Holly and Murphy,but they don't spoil the story which is altogether worthwhile. I'm glad I'm still online this week and able to comment.
Yes, she doesn't shy away from pain. It's actually the emotional pay-off where she backs off a little too much for my taste.
P.S. But I thought this was Wednesday - did I miss a warning about an early start? </em. Yes. And that's because I totally lost track of what day it was. I can't tell you how relieved I am to find I have an extra day in my week! *g*
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Date: 2010-02-03 10:18 am (UTC)It's a premise few dare to take on - Bodie in love with Doyle's sister? Engaged to her? But then, that's Angelfish. She's the one who gives them children - dead and alive - wives, teaching jobs in the Hebrides, lovers who die in climbing accidents... It's always a deep breath with her to see where she'll go, but for me it's always worth it.
Though here I agree, neither the Ann Holly or Murphy inclusion work for me. The Murphy scene in particular feels unnecessary. And the ending is intense but a little confusing after the rollercoaster that built up to it.
I do love this, though. I can remember whole chunks of it because it made such a deep impressionon me the first two or three times I read it.
Thanks for reccing this, a great choice and you did it justice.
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Date: 2010-02-03 06:03 pm (UTC)Yes. I had to read it in bits the first time -- stop and take a break and then continue reading. And I still rarely read it from start to finish -- it's just too painful.
But for all the right reasons really. Because she takes me so fully into this world of a damaged Doyle (she's one of the few who can make him this vulnerable without destroying his masculinity),
Yes, yes. What a good point. I meant to bring that up. A couple of weeks ago SC Fossil mentioned in the vampire queen story how Doyle faints, but she feels that it doesn't impinge on his masculinity, and I think that's true. It's not what happens to the lads, exactly. They can faint or cry or...basically anything that might happen in real life...but it's how it's handled. And part of the handling is how they're portrayed in other scenes. If they seem tough and capable for the majority of the story, then I'm okay with the occasional swoon or breakdown. If we're told they're tough, but we never see a sign of it...then it's a failure of characterization and the reader isn't convinced for one minute.
and a Bodie who is, as you rightly say, absolutely magnificent in his role as lover, agent, and friend.
This is my favorite portrayal of Bodie -- the writers who capture this version of Bodie, nail it for me. Doyle is always more elusive.
It's a premise few dare to take on - Bodie in love with Doyle's sister? Engaged to her? But then, that's Angelfish. She's the one who gives them children - dead and alive - wives, teaching jobs in the Hebrides, lovers who die in climbing accidents... It's always a deep breath with her to see where she'll go, but for me it's always worth it.
I agree. She veers away from nothing -- including killing them off, which is one step too far for me. *g*
Though here I agree, neither the Ann Holly or Murphy inclusion work for me. The Murphy scene in particular feels unnecessary. And the ending is intense but a little confusing after the rollercoaster that built up to it.
Yes. I understand why she wanted to skim because that would be a very, very hard scene to write. Not just the dialog, which could easily go over the top into deathbed parody, but the actual logistics of it. Doyle is literally dying, so there could only be a brief scene there and then another longer scene following...and it's hard. She was closing in on the finish line. I sympathize -- but I still want those scenes.
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Date: 2010-02-03 06:07 pm (UTC)This scene for example -- and here the second-hand POV works, it's all right that we don't get the details:
She could hear, but not words. The wild, raw sobbing of a grown man in unbearable pain. That was her brother. Panic chilled Kath: he did not sound sane. The cries were scarcely human, certainly beyond the reach of human comfort or control. Her legs crumpled beneath her and she sagged down against the wall, raising clenched fists to her ears.
But another sound was there. It came through in the ragged silences when Ray drew breath. Deep and undemanding, it flowed under and around the chaos. It was Will, just talking to him. She couldn't pick out a sentence, but doubted he could, either. That was not the point. Ray's partner, his friend, was doing what he did every day. Insisting – in the teeth of madness – that Ray's world continue. This world, this world; today, not 30 years ago, sunshine. It was hell but it's all gone and I'm here now.
And incredibly, her brother began to respond. At first it was only a dulling of hysteria's edge as he quieted to listen to him. Then words began to scatter themselves, noises of affirmation or denial to Bodie's soft, insistent questions. Briefly, the sound of ordinary crying, such as Kath would have given worlds to be able to do for herself. That became muffled, and then it slowed, and stopped.
Will's voice again: pitching up at the end: a question. Her brother answered, calmly, and actually gave a low, tired laugh.
A perfect silence.
One of my all time favorite scenes. It's really beautiful, and tells us all we need to know.
Thanks for reccing this, a great choice and you did it justice.
Thanks so much!
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Date: 2010-02-03 11:42 am (UTC)And I'm not big on this sort of, to me, over the top angst. That she then adds a sister who is used as a substitute (can a person really fall in and out of love like that?) only made it worse. It made Bodie seem either shallow or callous.
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Date: 2010-02-03 11:53 am (UTC)Obviously some people are perfectly happy with the characterisation, but while it's interesting enough in itself, I don't really see either of the lads from the eps here, and it seems unlikely to me that either would have survived such heavy emotional baggage as is portrayed to work successfully (ie, not fall asleep in trauma/fall apart in trauma/blackout etc on the job and get themselves killed) in CI5... I wanted to buy it all, but... just couldn't...
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Date: 2010-02-03 04:26 pm (UTC)Certainly not, Doyle, I agree! *g* But aside from that unlikely first person bit, I think the rest of the poetic flight is lovely.
Summer, and the sycamores in full leaf in all the dusty squares. The heat of the air made a virtue, a pleasant change, of Doyle's shot-out windshield, and he tore grinning down the Southwark side street to the pickup point where his partner was waiting in the road, affectedly ignoring his approach. Doyle stopped the statutory three inches off his right kneecap. "Oh, it's you," Bodie said when the screech of brakes and tyres had died, examining the jagged hole. "Someone been shooting at you, old son?"
That intro always makes me smile -- we see similar moments of dangerous fooling in canon -- and the dusty scent of sycamores makes it pop alive.
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Date: 2010-02-03 12:10 pm (UTC)Thanks for the story rec.
I agree with almost everything said. Angelfish can drag me into a story, but... There's always something missing. I adore Far Shores about the best of her works. I don't understand how this good writer always manages to add so many unnecessary scenes. Word count maybe? Really, she writes beautifully, but very wordy at times. Painting beautiful pictures with words doesn't make the story better.
I think a good editor could fix these things and tighten up the stories immensely. As a general comment, I often wonder if betas or editors are afraid to hack into a much-loved, long-time (insert fandom here) writer in fear of offense when they would really be helping. Who knows why, in the end.
But I've read Far Shores at least three times. This one I've read twice. The angst actually is okay. The end is thoughtlessly attached. But overall, it's a good read, just not a favourite.
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Date: 2010-02-03 05:03 pm (UTC)Thanks for reading!
I agree with almost everything said. Angelfish can drag me into a story, but... There's always something missing.
Yes? What?
I adore Far Shores about the best of her works. I don't understand how this good writer always manages to add so many unnecessary scenes.
And leave out some of the most important? *g* Yes, that is very common with authors who work in complete isolation. They're writing strictly and solely for an audience of one. This certainly describes Angelfish's fanfiction -- she writes simply and strictly for herself and had to be persuaded to publish, as I understand.
As for cutting the last scenes short -- rushing to end is a very common failing with writers old and new. I do it myself to the point that I now know my first ending is a just a place-keeping ending and that my real ending won't show up until my final draft. I think a lot of newish writers just go with that relief of having ended.
Word count maybe? Really, she writes beautifully, but very wordy at times. Painting beautiful pictures with words doesn't make the story better.
Because in fan fiction she was writing for her own pleasure, she indulged that delight in words in a way that an editor would typically try to curtail. She does write long naturally, which -- because I love her work -- I enjoy. I do think the focus in her storytelling is occasionally skewed and that more emphasis on the characters and their relationship and less on scenery and light is needed.
I think a good editor could fix these things and tighten up the stories immensely. As a general comment, I often wonder if betas or editors are afraid to hack into a much-loved, long-time (insert fandom here) writer in fear of offense when they would really be helping. Who knows why, in the end.
Not every writer is open to editing -- serious editing, I mean. As I said, Angelfish's fan fiction was very much her personal vision and written for her personal pleasure. Only so much editing would be possible.
But I've read Far Shores at least three times. This one I've read twice. The angst actually is okay. The end is thoughtlessly attached. But overall, it's a good read, just not a favourite.
Far Shores is splendid. Very vivid.
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Date: 2010-02-03 04:54 pm (UTC)I began reading this story.. but I just never got into it... I just couldn't understand it... I dunno why... If it's the language, the way Angelfish use the words or something else... *shrug*
Anyway, I'm very picky when it comes to stories, book and... you name it so... :P
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Date: 2010-02-03 05:50 pm (UTC)Thanks for giving it a try, anyway. It's one of those stories that will definitely not be to everyone's taste!
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Date: 2010-02-03 05:40 pm (UTC)That being said, this is my leave favorite of all her stories. I read it once years ago and haven't returned to it, so I'm writing this from somewhat distant memories. The emotional impact is incredibly intense and the writing beautiful as ever, but I don't like the story line at all. I just don't want to see my Bodie or Doyle in love with another character, particularly a woman. As good an OC Kathie is, too much time is spent on her. I just don't want that in my Pros fic. I can take D's mourning for a dead lover (Chances) a lot easier than I can this situation. I'm not sure about D being able to function in CI5 or as a cop after having endured what he endured. I also found the ending way too rushed, much more so than in her other works, and the scene I most wanted to see missing.
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Date: 2010-02-03 05:49 pm (UTC)Yes! That was one of the things that most bothered me on a first reading -- and yet there was a certain brutal logic to it. Bodie loves Doyle and this is as close to Doyle as he can get -- and he gets to be the knight in shining armor again because Kathie is also damaged. And I do agree with the reading of Bodie as someone who needs to be needed.
As good an OC Kathie is, too much time is spent on her. I just don't want that in my Pros fic.
I agree with that, too. I'd have rather had more of the lads together.
I can take D's mourning for a dead lover (Chances) a lot easier than I can this situation. I'm not sure about D being able to function in CI5 or as a cop after having endured what he endured. I also found the ending way too rushed, much more so than in her other works, and the scene I most wanted to see missing.
That -- the missing scene -- is my greatest criticism of the story. Doyle has suffered so much. They both have. And we've suffered with them. I do think that the reader pay-off needs to be in proportion to the pain and angst in a story (I mean, assuming the ending isn't one of those things where they die). *g*
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Date: 2010-02-04 02:24 pm (UTC)With a few well chosen words she can draw me straight in so that immediately I become a part of her beautiful tableau, sharing the lives of her characters on a beautiful summer's evening:
A warm late-May night, the city breeze tired but sweet. The road to the car park was quiet, and Doyle walked contentedly at Bodie's side
A 'breeze' which is 'tired but sweet' - I love it.
If I force myself to be objective there is one thing I could mention and it’s going to sound ridiculous because to change it would mean altering the whole story but, anyway, logical, I ain't.......…..I'm not sure what it is about Bodie or Doyle which suggests to a writer that one of them was a victim of child sexual abuse and I must admit to finding that particular theme a bit tedious and, strangely, given how difficult it must be to write, a bit easy to fall back on - a bit of a cop-out. (Maybe because it’s been done so many times?). Having said that, the whole thing was redeemed and made different by the presence of Kath, so that was OK and if I have to read about that particular subject I'd rather it was in the deft hands of writers such as Angelfish than anyone else!
Thanks for this rec!
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Date: 2010-02-04 05:54 pm (UTC)*g*
An air of expectancy hangs over her writing, of hope against hope, a kind of breathlessness with the promise of things to come - that something wonderful (or terrible) is about to happen (even when it doesn't).
Yes. I was terrified to read Absolution. And because I was lending Justacat a hand, I couldn't read ahead. *g* I HAD to read it as it naturally unfolded.
Yes, at times she can write in a flowery kind of way but it doesn’t seem to irritate me in the way that M Fae Glasgow does. I never find Angelfish’s writing tortuous, long-winded or feel that she’s guilty of saying the same thing several times in different ways (like me), if she does then it just passes over my head.
Well, she's not showing off...flexing writing muscles just to flex them. She's lost in the words and the magic of the world she's creating. I find that very appealing in a writer. I think that's why her work is so emotional.
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