Shhhh....

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

So... is it me, or is it very quiet around Pros right now?

Hmmmn.

*looks around*

So... what's everyone reading?

*g*

Comments

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm ambivalent on the Larton side of things. I liked the first, but I had enough country living as a kid (even if not in the Cotswolds) to do me, so the sequels paled a bit. I can do without WTF as well. BDSM, though - now you're talking!

Kitty Fisher's 'Monopoly' was one of my first reads, and remains a favourite. Try her AU 'The Alchemist's Measure' as well (the sequel is also BDSM, but I think the storyline is weaker at the end).

Others:
- And Learn to Fly by Blackbird
- Deadly Nightshade by Gloria Lancaster
- There's No Place by Josey
- M Fae's Snowbound duo of stories, although one of them is non-con.

I think the one I like most is Object of Desire by Courtney Gray, although the BDSM is secondary to the relationship development (it's not listed as BDSM on any story lists AFAIK).

[sc-fossil.livejournal.com]

Oh, more reading. I'll pass on the non-con one, but the others I'll give a try. I appreciate your help, as well as the warning. Thanks!

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Oh but it's dead interesting when people are honest! Way the best way to be, I reckon!

And I'm right out there on the limb with you - I like all kinds of fic, from romance (though not with the lads being over-soppy, but that's a character-thing for me) to bdsm, which I love! Kitty Fisher is my favourite bdsm author (Feasting with Panthers, and Monopoly!), though I like MFae's as well, and Courtney Grey alot. I never really think of the Snowbound stories as bdsm myself - they're more abusive relationship to me, cos there's no form of equality there at all. Bdsm has some form of equality, because it's consensual on both sides, not matter how the sub-dom balance might be, which is a whole different thing.

Trying to think of other authors now too... Peaches and Cream (http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/12/peachesand.html) by Tauna is a Bodie-tied-up fic, which is close... *g* Oh, and Safety (http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/8/safety.html) by the Hag is another not-really-but-for-fun one... *g* Not quite Kitty Fisher, either of them, but... they've their own attractions!

[sc-fossil.livejournal.com]

Oh, good. More stories. Tied up is good! LOL!

Yes, I liked Courtney Grey very much. And Kitty Fisher's were good, as well as some of the others I've gotten recs for. So far, I haven't run away screaming, but I haven't tried the Snowbound ones yet. If it's abusive or non-con, I won't make it through the stories. I'm good reading just about any intensity as long as it's consensual.

See I like romance, but I think that they're men, and should act like men. But I also think that behind closed doors, there has to be a time when there's tenderness and love, or else why bother with the sex? It's fun to read a couple of stories that are just two blokes doing it, but then I want more. Heck, B or D can pay for sex any time, or more than likely, the woman (or men) would pay either of them for the privilege. But there has to be something special between my guys, not just a quick shag and not a loving word. It is the romantic in me. Guilty as charged.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

not just a quick shag and not a loving word
Oh, I'm all about there being more to it than that as well - I love it when they're tender with each other. It's just that there are some things that as British men and as men of a certain cultural age/upbringing/mindset I can't see them doing and/or saying. It's sort of... the boundary between that tenderness, and the point where it crosses over into sappiness that's the issue for me, I think...

But yeah, it's about more than just sex - that could be any two bodies - it's about how our lads have sex, and why they do it, and the relationship that's built up between them, which is canonically more than just about sex!

Oh, Gwyneth Rhys' Fit to Be Tied, although it's full of Americanisms it's also good fun!

[hagsrus.livejournal.com]

Heh -- Safety was my first effort and I guess it got that whole genre out of my system early on. I hadn't seen any eps at that point (bad mistake I realise in retrospect) so excuse it, please!

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

I hadn't seen any eps at that point
Ohhhh - that explains maybe why it doesn't read as properly them as your other stories?

I'm always really curious about this, cos I don't think I could do it myself - where did you get the lads' characterisation, if you hadn't seen any eps? And their speech in particular? And what was it that prompted you to want to write for a fandom you'd never actually seen?

[hagsrus.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm really not a "fan" as such.

I was steered to Pros by someone I met on a list who knew I was looking for MM romance. The concept was quite new to me -- all those stories by different writers, and different views by the same writers. I expected stories by one writer to be a consistent series at first, not (mostly) starting afresh each time.

So I got it from other fanfic and a few photos that were available, and the single transcript Stake-out that had been done at the time. The now-archived version was edited some time after the first posting, but the whole thing is not something I'd have written now, and probably not if I'd seen them on screen first -- or not quite the same way, anyhow.

Like many, I had been writing slash unaware during my teens for my own pleasure based on a favourite radio show (Journey Into Space) so I was fascinated to discover this whole world of other people doing the same thing. Wonderful internet -- I doubt I'd have encountered it the old-fashioned way.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Oh, more interesting *g*

So what would be your definition of a "fan" then, as opposed to someone else who regularly writes slash fiction from a tv series?

I'm glad of the internet too, that's the only way I discovered slash - I've often wondered about the processes people went through to discover it pre-internet, friends of friends I guess, if you were lucky enough to have the right sort of friends! I was so ready for something like that when I was watching Pros originally, but there was not a whisper... And I have to admit that I was far too innocent to see the slash way back then anyway - just never occurred to me...