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http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/5/monopoly.html
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http://hatstand.slashcity.net/kitty/mono.html
Monopoly by Kitty Fisher hits all of my buttons. It's what I consider gritty BDSM but gritty really makes me happy in this case. I will read almost any BDSM story that is fully consensual and I can take a lot of rough sex between two men. This story gives us two hard men fucking to within an inch of their lives. I fully realise that this isn't a story for everybody. It's definitely an acquired taste. *g*
I think the first few paragraphs nicely set up the scene. It's not love, we're led to believe from the lead in paragraphs. It's dirty sex between two men.
Doyle is waiting:
Doyle straightened, listening to almost silence as the TV clicked off. Without the brash noise the alley seemed to close in. Shadowy, like the molasses his nan had used to make ginger cake; thickly cloying, shiny, sweeter for his own anticipation of the final result. He licked his lips, and plucked at the untucked hem of his T-shirt, wafting air. He was lightly dressed. No gun. No jacket. Nothing to get in the way... of whatever was coming. Whatever Bodie brought. Wanted. Gave...
This paragraph is just about perfect to me. I really like the description of what Doyle thinks of Bodie's confidence anywhere :
A shadow-shift at the edge of his perception, and a figure approached from his left. Unexpected when the road was a dog-leg of alley to his right. Left was... what? Nothing. Something. Somewhere Bodie knew. But then Bodie was at home in the strangest of places. In back alleys. In the secret hours between midnight and dawn.
And this description of Bodie makes me all tingly:
Black polo neck under a black biker's jacket, scratched and dulled with age, black jeans, boots. Unsmiling, his face hollowed and sharpened in the muted streetlight. Doyle knew -- just from the tension in the wide shoulders -- that Bodie was hard. Needy. He felt his sphincter tighten, felt his balls crawl upwards as his cock surged. Hungry Bodie. A dark night and a secluded alleyway. And games as expiation, as benediction. The slow twist of time stopped, here.
The game starts and we're treated to lines like this:
Not fighting. Lost on the cusp of the illusion of helplessness, the reality of submission, Doyle shivered. Hot night air on his skin. Nipples hard, sensitised beyond belief. When Bodie smiled Doyle arched into him, whimpering helplessly, saliva wet on his wide-stretched lips, cooling on his chin.
And just so further emphasise that this is consensual, we're told:
Jesus, he wanted this so much. Wanted Bodie. To fuck him. Hard. Though the tongue was making thought impossible. Making everything impossible, except simple need. Enough to make him sob. Breathlessly, wordlessly begging, the tension rippling in his arms as he held on, stretched and bent, held just as Bodie wanted him.
There is pain and pleasure, and hard fucking and more pain, until Doyle gets what he wants. Until we find out why they picked this night, this alley, this time together to celebrate:
Looking up he (Doyle) caught a smile that showed a flash of white teeth. "I'm alive. I didn't die."
"Just as well." Doyle slid his face between the jacket and Bodie's neck. Snuffled skin. Sweat and animal and scent. Life in the pulse of blood. "Don't scare me, cretin. It's not good for me."
And then the lads toddle off together to head to home and another sort of game and maybe Doyle will now get his turn.
So... Rough story, pain mixed with pleasure, some straight-out painful moments, and by the end, trust and love. I've read almost every story in my three fandoms classified as BDSM and I consider this one the best short story in the genre. I like the timing of the sentences and the way the author constructed them. I like the "textures" we're given of the entire experience: the alley and the clothes and the sex, their reactions and feelings. And for me the complete trust we know exists between Bodie and Doyle is clearly conveyed.
Everything in this story is so easily pictured here for me, so them for me that every time I read it, I'm left with a good feeling that they'll always be there for each other and always cover each other's backs -- in more ways than one.
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Date: 2009-04-17 10:02 pm (UTC)Yeah, I agree. It's just that no-one else seems puzzled so I think it must be me who's missing out on something obvious! Maybe I should go and stick a ball in my mouth and see what happens....
I don't want to be flogged but I do find reading about one man doing it to another a turn on. Go figure!
God knows why but I think I can understand that a bit more. Maybe I'm thinking of that picture of Bodie on stage, on his knees, looking as if he's about to be flogged or the scene from In The Public Interest...
And what was with the programme on BBC-A last night about people actually wanting to fuck their cars?
I'm in the UK and I didn't see that though a while back we did have an American programme on people (ok, men) who have a carnal interest in their animals (one of which included a horse). Very interesting, that was......And something else which tickled me from that programme: they gave out a figure that so many states in the union had bestiality an an offence, which made me think that in the rest it must be legal?
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Date: 2009-04-17 10:46 pm (UTC)I'm not sure I know what you mean... If you mean puzzled by SM in this story, then you are not right! :-)
I stopped following the discussion because I stopped reading a story I don't like... so maybe you mean something else...?
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Date: 2009-04-17 11:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-17 11:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-18 08:41 am (UTC)I'm not sure I know what you mean... If you mean puzzled by SM in this story, then you are not right! :-)
Yeah, I think the negative response to the SM has been more about disliking the pain aspect of it (and perhaps the humiliation, too), whereas I can't understand (and I'm repeating myself again) why someone would want to do something like stick a ball into their mouth or why someone else would want them to, I'm finding it hard seeing any connection between that act and the other acts of S&M (which I'm not criticising in any way). But what's the difference between the leather ball bit and donning a silly hat or a clown's mask? It just seems a ludicrous thing to do! Everyone to their own but I don't understand the sexual turn-on which the ball seems to have on Bodie. Giving yourself over to someone and allowing them to whip you, yes, I can get that, but standing there with your face bulging and eyes probably popping seems more like a good recipe for a sexual turn-*off*...
(But I think I've just spied a fuller response to my question further down from lysimache in that there *is* a physcial response, so that helps me to understand the whole thing a bit more!).
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Date: 2009-04-18 09:09 am (UTC)Then I go a bit further. ;-)
And did lysimach manage to enlighten you?
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Date: 2009-04-18 10:43 am (UTC)Well, I'm not even sure I've used the term 'dislike'....I'm just *puzzled* by the image of what seems like a farcical scene - someone with a ball in their mouth? I can't understand the connection to sex.
Then I go a bit further. ;-)
And did lysimach manage to enlighten you?
Yes, I think she did help!
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Date: 2009-04-18 04:57 am (UTC)Let's see if I can provide some helpful explanation!
Okay, out of nowhere, yeah, the ball gag is probably not that fun; I don't think grabbing a tennis ball with your teeth or something is a good test! I certainly wouldn't randomly enjoy that. Gags in general probably are only fun in context.
(In case anyone is unsure what a ball gag is/looks like: it's a (usually rubber) ball, probably in the 1-2" range, large enough to be uncomfortable but not so large it would, say, dislocate the jaw -- I actually found the description of Doyle's jaw "cracking" in the story a bit disconcerting -- which the bottom cannot actually fit all of in the mouth; it is secured so that s/he can't spit it out, forcing the mouth open around it, by means of straps that go around the head.)
Gags are fun for some of the same reasons as other restraints: loss of control, feeling of helplessness, ceding power. Additionally, a gag provides freedom to react as much as one wishes, noise-wise. It's a great feeling, including physically, if one is into that sort of thing. The discomfort (the mouth/jaw stretching over the gag) can also hit an erotic pain kink. Ball gags, especially, are also going to force the bottom to drool rather a lot, which can provide an erotic feeling of humiliation, which, again, lots of people like.
Visually, the (ball) gag is sort of an iconic image of BDSM, and it will often be attractive to both top and bottom on that account.
Gags can be fairly dangerous. If, as mentioned in a comment above, anyone is feeling unable to breathe, you're doing it wrong! And should not do it! For instance, if the bottom is having any difficulty with breathing solely through the nose, or has a tendency to choke, or what have you? Gags are right out. Breath play is really, really, really dangerous. There's also a big danger from possible aspiration if the bottom should gag/vomit: a gag should not actually cause gagging! That's really unsafe. (I'm sure some people find that danger a turn-on, so YMMV.)
Does that help explain it at all?
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Date: 2009-04-18 10:29 am (UTC)Gags can be fairly dangerous.
Now that I can *really* understand particularly in the context of Bodie and Doyle. Prolonging the danger that they might have been exposed to all day and which seems to give them some kind of adrenaline-plus rush....and the attraction of being able finally to *control* that danger and then coming down from it in their own way.
Gags are fun for some of the same reasons as other restraints: loss of control, feeling of helplessness, ceding power.
I can understand this as well as it seems to strike some kind of primeval chord e.g. the caveman dragging 'his woman' into the cave... maybe we've retained something of this in our ancient memories (for want of a better term!). But I feel slightly that there's contradiction here as well: that even though the submission of one person to the other is based on a mutual willingness or consent, the situation rests upon a fundamental inequality - no matter how temporary - for the whole scenario to work i.e. it involves the submission and subjugation of one partner to the other, and in turn, a feeling of extreme - if not total - power on the part of one person over the other and this seems to contradict the end-product of this story which does have them in complete accord and equals. The need for a temporary loss of power on the part of one person in order to have complete equality for two seems a strange psychology.
Thank you for this explanation and I really liked your Latin poem at your journal!
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Date: 2009-04-18 10:52 am (UTC)A very big yes that submission is a huge part of this story, a very important part. Doyle knows that Bodie needs to feel the power over him, and he willingly grants it, just as Doyle feels he must give the power to Bodie because of what happened.
It's not a contradiction at all, but an exchange of trust to me. I think you've hit it when you said a temporary loss of power. In this particular instance, it is temporary. But there are people who do live a master/slave relationship 24/7. I just attended a panel at a con a few weeks ago about this exact sort of relationship. Man, it was so interesting to hear people who actually practice this lifestyle discuss it.
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Date: 2009-04-18 11:03 am (UTC)It's an exchange of trust which seems to require one person giving in to the other, allowing himself to be dominated and harmed because he knows that is what his partner wants - that is the thing which is required of him - rather than some other way of asserting control over his life. And maybe this is what some people might find strange: that to show love you have to exact pain.
Man, it was so interesting to hear people who actually practice this lifestyle discuss it.
After people have striven for equality for decades I'm trying to get a handle on this! Maybe it's only when you've enjoyed equality that you can afford to indulge in other kinds of relationships, or, dare I say it, mind-games?
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Date: 2009-04-18 04:41 pm (UTC)Yep, I think all restraints have a physical and a mental/emotional component. It's very hard to separate the two aspects, for me, anyway. Each feeling reinforces the other. *Allowing* someone else to have that kind of control is a huge rush.
I noticed you seem to think it would 'look silly'? I think there's a large element of, hmm, theater in a lot of BDSM play: props, costumes, scenery all contribute to the overall eroticism of the scene. Any one element on its own (or heck, in context, depending on one's own predilections) can *definitely* seem silly. That's not necessarily a bad thing! It's okay to find some of it a bit silly, even while it's a turn-on, or whatever. It's not Deadly Serious! It's fun! And not everyone is going to find all of the fetishistic parts interesting/appealing/attractive, etc. It is even possible to like BDSM and not find, say, leather, inherently sexy (no, really!). So the ball gag is just one prop in the whole scene that's being set up in the story: the alley, the clothes, the nipple clamps, etc.
and the attraction of being able finally to *control* that danger and then coming down from it in their own way.
I think this was *exactly* what the story was trying to portray. You've hit it exactly. :)
But I feel slightly that there's contradiction here as well: that even though the submission of one person to the other is based on a mutual willingness or consent, the situation rests upon a fundamental inequality - no matter how temporary - for the whole scenario to work i.e. it involves the submission and subjugation of one partner to the other, and in turn, a feeling of extreme - if not total - power on the part of one person over the other and this seems to contradict the end-product of this story which does have them in complete accord and equals. The need for a temporary loss of power on the part of one person in order to have complete equality for two seems a strange psychology.
Power exchange *is* sexy! :) And yes, I can't imagine how it could ever work in a relationship in which the participants were not on an equal basis to start. If one doesn't have absolute faith that power is shared equally outside of the agreed upon times, how could there be the trust that would allow the bottom to cede control to the top? Bodie and Doyle, in their relationship, are definitely equals, and therefore they can temporarily give up power to each other and it's awesome: but it would really squick me if I were reading a story where either of them bottomed to Cowley. The fundamental inequality there would, for me, negate the trust necessary for meaningful consent. (Others, of course, might find it hot. And that's cool, for them.) The negotiated consent of BDSM gives a safe space to explore power dynamics that otherwise we do have little healthy outlet for. But like I said, for me, if that didn't start with a completely equal relationship, the specter of coercion would taint it too much to enjoy. I see the equality coming first, and then from it, the ability to play with power dynamics in a safe/supported way.
Thank you for this explanation and I really liked your Latin poem at your journal!
Glad it helped! :) I'd be totally willing to take a stab at explaining anything else I could about this sort of thing, if anyone wants or thinks it might help.
And that great that you liked the poem! I'm a Latin teacher, so I love having people say they like Latin: it makes my day. :)
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Date: 2009-04-18 06:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-18 08:47 pm (UTC)You see I find that kind of thing just plain boring, almost on a par with wearing party hats and bursting balloons – it’s just a big turn off for me! And when reading a story, if it starts to go down the 'master' and 'slave' route then I'm off as it just doesn’t interest me. I’m not opposed to it, or even disapproving of it, I'm happy for others to enjoy it but the whole dressing up as nazis, school girls, whipping etc doesn’t do a thing for me.
But from what you say the attraction of S&M does seem to lie largely in the inequality of power – even if it’s exchanged and temporary - and on one person at any given time having power over another? If so, then I think I’m disappointed that Bodie and Doyle need to experience that kind of thing vis a vis each other because isn’t it all around us and something we’re all striving to escape?. An imbalance of power within a relationship is nothing new, all of us throughout our lives and throughout our daily lives are exposed to this, whether it be child/parent/teacher/pupil blah blah so it’s nothing new or different and I really want them to be different - I thought they were - and to get off on something different to that which is, arguably, no more than an extension of patriarchy, not to mention the hundreds of other inequalities within society. I want them to have great sex (and to find happiness) in other, less negative ways i.e. without the need to make each other suffer or to impose control.
Thanks for this!
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Date: 2009-04-18 09:22 pm (UTC)I do think that there are some things that can't be really explained very well, and let's face it, there's no need to convince you that "this" is good and "that" isn't. So I think that we'll have to agree that we each see the underlying premise of the story (Doyle's submission to Bodie) as something you see as negative and I don't. I see both boys as entirely equal. Both have to say yes to whatever is going to happen, be it a gag or a set of handcuffs or those nipple clamps. And both have their own reasons for being in the positions they find themselves, which I do think the writer clearly told us. It's up to the reader to buy it, of course.
And I think they did have great sex and there wasn't anything negative to me. In this story, the pain isn't negative to either party, it's essential to them to move past what had happened. Now to a reader, that's an entirely different ballgame whether they agree with that premise as written.
Thanks!
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Date: 2009-04-18 09:44 pm (UTC)Sorry, but I don't see this discussion as being about you or me! I'm trying to think about and discuss certain points which have been made by several people and which came up in the story. I hope you don't feel offended because I don't share the same views as you or that I was interested enough to ask questions about the story? I'm just trying to take part in the discussion, that's all, and to show interest in your choice! And I don't feel that I was that negative or disapproving of the S&M aspects, merely puzzled that people would want to spend their time on that kind of activity and I've stressed more than once that it's probably my problem! I thought I'd been pretty fair and openminded about the whole thing.
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Date: 2009-04-18 09:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-18 10:07 pm (UTC)Well neither do I but you seem to be annoyed because I didn't share your position.
I wasn't here to convince anybody of anything. I was saying that I saw it differently than you, since it's you and I who are posting.
My last two posts were actually directed at comments made by lysimach not anything you'd said.
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Date: 2009-04-18 10:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-18 10:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-19 11:00 pm (UTC)what is described in the story -
http://www.discreet-romance.com/34quot-ball-wbuckle-adult-sex-toys-24678.html
full head ball gag (different head gear, but shows how the ball looks in place)
http://www.discreet-romance.com/full-head-112quot-ball-adult-sex-toys-29657.html
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Date: 2009-04-20 07:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-20 09:12 pm (UTC)Yep! Now I'm even more sure...
They would try it, they would laugh about it, they would throw it away, and they would make love without any silly toys....