The lads in history..?

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

It's Friday! Anyone want to play? *g*

I've just finished reading the gorgeous A Family Affair by Lizzie, which of course meant that I wanted to read more Regency Prosfic (sometimes you're just in the mood, you know?) and got me thinking about other historical Prosfic, and then... well then I started thinking about making a list... as you do... *g*

So - could definitely do with some help for this one. Anyone else up for a Pros-y challenge for the weekend? Titles and authors and time periods of historical Prosfic..?

Updated 16th October 2008 - latest updates marked with **

Historical Prosfic List - in Order of Chronological Setting
Dates given are approximate only, named periods generally even more approximate if dates and details were not given by authors, and none take into account any current debate among historians! Feel free to offer alternatives if it seems as though they might work better.

Prehistoric

Ancient Greece
Wine-Dark Nexus by Ann Carr and Taemon's Cuckoos and Taemon's Seed by Tessa Rae (Egyptian/Cretan/Atlantean?!)

Ancient Rome
Leap in the Dark and The Janus by Tarot

Tudor and Stuart (c1509 - 1660)
Power of Love by Anna Parrish

Restoration (c1660)
The Alchemist's Measure and The Devil's Apprentice by Kitty Fisher
In His Majesty's Secret Service by Lainie Stone

Georgian (1714-1830)/Regency Period (1795-1837)
Mistress Beaufort's Masquerade Ball by Amy A. Morgan and While All the World is at Mistress Beaufort's Ball by Adela Kingsbury
Danger by Moonlight by Anna Parrish
The Peerless Pair by HG
Rediscovered In A Graveyard by HG
A Family Affair by Lizzie
Traitor's Fate by Meg Lewtan
The Highwayman by O. Yardley
Love Conquers All by POM
To Walk By Owl-Light by Rhiannon
Hazardous Fortune by Sally Fell

Victorian (1837 -1901)
The Ghost and Raymond Doyle by Barbara Thomas
**Prince of the Mists by Jane
The Victorian Kitchen Gardener by Lizzie
Bird in a Guilded Cage by Meg Lewtan
Luck of the Draw by Meg Lewtan
Murder on the Moor by Meg Lewtan
Arabian Nights by Pamela Rose

Edwardian (1901-1914)
A Chance of Fate universe by Claire Dobbin
A Birdwatcher's Guide to Cornish Ghosts series by Lizzie

World War I (1914-1918)
Wings of Morning by Irene
Veils of Morning by Rhiannon

Between the Wars
The Waiting Room by Lizzie
Time Out, Past Tense by Pamela Rose
Prelude... And Answer by Rhiannon

World War II (1939-1945)
Guardian Angels by Baravan
Prelude... And Answer by Rhiannon
Odds Against by Tasha

The Future!
Suitable Gravity by DVS
Echo and Broadcast Difficulties by Ellis Ward
The Cook and the Warehouseman by Helen Raven
The Same River by Helen Raven
Nothing Left to Lose by Jane and Madeleine Ingram
Heat by Lainie Stone
Time Out, Past Tense by Pamela Rose
Bronze Metal Lover by Stew
Right Here, Right Now by Stew
Hostage to Peace by Wally
In the Future Tense by Wally

Comments

[angel-ci5.livejournal.com]

Brilliant idea! I just *love* historical Pros fics.
How about HG's "The Peerless Pair" which is Regency I think....knowing historical periods isn't my strong point!
I haven't read "A Family Affair", so off to order that now! *g*

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

I couldn't remember which period Peerless Pair was - was hoping someone would remind me! (I really must get hold of my own copy of that... *g*)

Historical fics are fun, aren't they?! *g*

[heliophile-oxon.livejournal.com]

Excellent idea for a readers' resource, this list - will you be archiving? One could read them through history! *g*

Isn't there one (actually I think there may be a sequel too) where Bodie, in CI5, has flashbacks to a previous existence in Roman Britain? And another, "Dreaming Stone" (????) where they both have previous incarnations (in Ireland, perhaps?) also set during the Roman Empire.

And there's another story set mostly on Crete at the time of the earthquake that destroyed Knossos, in which Bodie is an Egyptian aristocrat and Doyle is 'Atlantean', but I don't know if you want to include the further-fetched AUs!

Sorry I'm no good with names today, though!

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Tarot - Leap in the Dark, which is mostly Roman setting
Sequels: The Janus (Tarot) and Emerging from the Smoke (HG) are present day looking back at events.

Wine Dark Nexus (Anne Carr). A little AR with the Atlantean stuff.

The Dreaming Stone series (Jane) I'd cast as Celtic Dreamtime rather than historical. I haven't read it recently so I can't pinpoint a century.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

I thought it might be fun to have! *g* I'll archive it here and at palelyloitering I imagine, and send it to Hatstand perhaps, if they'd like it too. Or at least that's my thought right now...

You're as bad as me though, I couldn't remember all those titles too - I'm rubbish with names! Is it Wine Dark Nexus that's the Greek/Egyptian/Atlantean one you're thinking of? oh, and Leap in the Dark and The Janus by Tarot! Had to go searching for those, I was convinced it was by HG... or maybe it's summat else you're thinking of?

I know there's lots of historical ones by Meg Lewtan too, but I've not read many of them yet... Oh, there's a fab one that reminds me of a Sherlock Holmes story, set on the moors, I think, where Doyle's a... is he a doctor who comes to a remote village where Bodie is a squire? Hmmn...!

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Mistress Beaufort's Masquerade Ball - Amy A Morgan (1790's)

Meg Lewtan did a French Revolution one too... Traitor's Fate

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Aha! Cheers! *g*

There's a sequel to the Masquerade Ball too - shall go and look that up right now!

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Lizzie's "The Waiting Room" has a post-war (can't say which one) feel to it. Unfortunately she doesn't specify the when.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Hee - I almost feel as if I should add all of Lizzie's stories, sort of on principle... *g* Must go figure out when Cider With Bodie is set too...

She doesn't quite specify when for The Waiting Room, but she says that Bodie was injured "in the trenches" and then Doyle says something about it being a few years later, so I think the story Doyle's telling is set at the end of WWI. But then quite early on he makes a comment about transport being better now than in the twenties - and I think says something else that makes me think that his own story is set post-WWII... So... hmmn - layered historical fic, how to deal?! *g*

[msmoat.livejournal.com]

Are you doing zine fiction as well or just online? Because there's Irene's "Wings of Morning" (between the World Wars), and on Prolib there's Lainie Stone's marvelous "In His Majesty's Secret Service" which is Charles II.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Oh all of it! Always all of it! Actually some of the links I've got up there already are to zines or stories in zines that I've listed at palelyloitering, rather than directly to online stories. I thought it might be useful for people to know where they could find them, even if they couldn't get hold of them online...

I was trying to remember Wings of Morning earlier - I've just re-read it, but buggered if I could remember where from! *g*

And I don't think I know the Lainie Stone story... bet it's on ProsLib, right? *runs off to look*... *g*

Thank you!

[loyseofverlaine.livejournal.com]

Guardian Angels, by Baravan, is WWII, with maybe a touch of AU, but totally wonderful.

http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/1/guardianangels.html

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Ah, thank you! I've added it to the list. I keep not reading that one actually, as I stop when I see that it's a Cowley fic with no apparent sign of B/D. Is it slash at all, do you know? I've put it in as Cowley/Other, but I know that might be wrong since I've still not read it... I will one day... *g*

[przed.livejournal.com]

Fab idea. I know I'll be raiding this list for reading inspiration.

Off the top of my head, one of my favorite future stories is Nothing Left to Lose, by Jane and Madeline Ingram.

http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/4/nothingleft.html

I know there's historicals I love that aren't here yet, but shall have to poke a bit through my zines.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

I love that one too! I can't believe that I was once so adamant that I'd never like AU-type B/D stories... *g*

Thanks for the link, and do rootle around your zines, it'd be fab to have as much up as we can! *g*

I adore that icon more each time I see it... it's not even Doyle's arms, which, just... gaaaah... it's something about how lean Bodie is, about the twist of him there... (Mind, I was thinking that about a pic of MS I saw earlier today. Apparently I just like my lads to twist... *g*

[shooting2kill.livejournal.com]

This is a great idea! Just think, hundreds of years from now people will be using all these different archives and thanking you for doing them all.....!

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Heeeeee!

You know, I always think of all the lists in Hatstand and ProsLib and think that they're so brilliantly done there can't possibly be anything else that I'd want... and then of course I find myself thinking But I want to find all the stories *in chronological order* or something else daft... It's all purely selfish, you know! *g*

[metabolick.livejournal.com]

Clandestine Intent by Elizabeth Holden - Regency (Variations On The Theme of B and D)

Free Trader by Debra Hicks - future (the Hatstand)

Danger By Moonlight by Anna Parrish - horse and buggy days, not sure exactly when (the Hatstand)

The last two may be on the Circuit Archive but it seems to be down right now and I can't check.

[metabolick.livejournal.com]

The Ghost And Raymond Doyle by Barbara Thomas - Edwardian. (Unprofessional Conduct 5)

[gilda-elise.livejournal.com]

What a wonderful list! I love AUs, so this is going to come in very handy. Thanks!

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Delayed reply, but glad you like the idea! It might be slow growing, and I'll have to find somewhere to put it while it does, but... yeay. *g*

[izzie7.livejournal.com]

This is great - well done! I was quite surprised by how many I have already read! What about "Echo" & "Broadcast Difficulties" by Ellis Ward for the future category - I love these. And you could add "Love Conquers All" by Pom to the Regency section.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Ooh yes - and POM's written a few historicals, I think, so must remember to go and look her up and add the others in too! And Ellis Ward, definitely- there's a few more of Helen Raven's that I've got to put up too... Thank you!

I'm still desperately hoping to find wonderful Pros stories I've not read... *g*

In The Future Tense

[beauregard.livejournal.com]

In the Future Tense by Wally.

Re: In The Future Tense

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Ooh yes - thank you!

[angel-ci5.livejournal.com]

IIRC Elessar's The Captive Heart has a historical setting...I'm afraid I'm not sure which era it is though!

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Ooh, I had to go and read this one cos I don't think I've read it before... at least, I remember the beginnning of it, but not that it was so long or anything, so maybe I didn't get very far - or maybe it was just a while ago now!

I'm thinking this is more a fantasy AU though, now that I've re-read so far - they seem to be talking about a place called "Orienta" and a few other lands that I don't think I can translate to think this is medieval, or anywhen else in our world... *g* Thanks for making me look at it again, though! *g*

historical fic

[(Anonymous)]

Hi all. I couldn't help but offer a few more fics for your list. These are on the Hatstand and/or circuitlibrary.

Power of Love by Anna Parrish. It's based in 1600's.
Danger by Moonlight by Anna Parrish. English highwayman.
Luck of the Draw by Meg Lewton. Victorian, I believe.
Right Here, Right Now by Stew. Futuristic. Blade Runner.
Odds Against by Tasha. World War II.
Heat by Lainie Stone. futuristic. It's on the Pros cd.
Nothing Left to Lose by Jane. futuristic Bodie's marshall, Doyle is gunslinger.

Re: historical fic

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Brilliant - thank you! I've added them to the list, though the Meg Lewtan and Lainie Stone fics are only available on the ProsLib CD - neither of those authors are archived online, unfortunately...

[come-in45.livejournal.com]

I've come very late to this, sorry, having seen the link in the Pros newsletter.

Did I say I only like canon? Didn't take me long to succumb to the charms of some of these historical stories, maybe it's because I'm a historian too.

Which brings me to the pedantry.
'A Chance of Fate' is not 'between the wars', it is Russia 1905-6, so I guess Edwardian (and they only have about 10 years to live happily ever after before the Revolution - bittersweet or what?) It is so beautifully written and evocative, and with enough seemingly authentic background to persuade me. The great thing about this story was that it made me care about what happened to the B and D characters, I could easily imagine what they might do in 10 years time....

'Time out, past tense' is canon plus an episode set 'between the wars' (1937). I almost didn't read this because being reminded of growing up under the threat of MAD still gives me the creeps, and I still kind of wish I hadn't, because it's given me the creeps all over again and displaced the warm, rosy glow of 'Chance of Fate'. Apart from that it was seriously in need of a Brit-checker (commercials on BBC radio?...)

Please excuse the pedantry and accept this as proof that your efforts are worthwhile and much appreciated!

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

There's no such thing as late to this one - it's an ongoing project! *g*

Be as pedantic as you like, especially if you've spotted mistakes in the listing - as long as you're nice about it, then they're totally appreciated! I've moved the two above that you noted - well spotted!

Some of Pam Rose's stories really could have done with a Brit-checker, which I rather think I've seen her acknowledge somewhere, actually - or maybe that was Alexandra! There's quite alot of Prosfic like that, and I'm always torn between thinking Good on you for loving it enough to write anyway (especially from the pre-internet/easy-checking days!) and thinking aaaaaargh! On the bright side, I certainly enjoy Pam Rose's fic enough to generally be able to give her some slack!

Glad you like the posting - do let me know if you think of any other fics that could be included - your contributions are much appreciated too! *g*

[come-in45.livejournal.com]

ci5hq beta readers list - thanks, will do.

I am surprised that Americanisms seem to annoy you more than me, and I thought I was fussy.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Hee - well, I don't know how much they annoy you, but... yeah, they annoy me! I can be more forgiving of some things in older fic, when it was harder to do such detailled research, but there's not alot of excuse nowadays - especially when people have the dvds to write from as well! *is harsh* *g*

[heliophile-oxon.livejournal.com]

Ooh, I just thought of two more - these aren't in yet are they?

Stand and Deliver followed by Brother Blades, by O. Yardley. Georgian? Well some george or other on the throne, I think. maybe. am rubbish at hist. The first one references a battle fought in 1815, so events some years after 1815.

any good? or did you have them already? Come to think of it, one of these (or both together?) could be her Highwayman under another name. But they are both online.

[byslantedlight.livejournal.com]

Eeep - sorry for the delay in replying - oh gawd, huge, huge delay... I couldn't remember the stories, so I had to read them, which meant I had to... and then... and... sorry! But yes, excellent call, and I've posted them both up! Thank you! *vbg*

ETA - They're not The Highwayman under a different name, but they're set in the same period, I suspect, and I wonder if one inspired the other... *g*