[identity profile] ella-caramella.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] ci5hq
Seems like LJ ate my post on Prosfinder so I’m trying again here. I have a subscription to DSpace and they sent me an update of available PDFs. One of this is Roses and Lavender issue 2. Here’s the link:

https://hdl.handle.net/1969.1/150285

Problem is it doesn’t let me in. Anyone else?

Date: 2021-05-26 07:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] jat-sapphire.livejournal.com
It told me access was restricted and I had to give credentials. Don't have those.

Date: 2021-05-26 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
I don't know what DSpace is (or how it's able to distribute/share old Pros zines), but what I see is that the link takes me to Texas A&M University, and says that only Texas A&M affiliates can access the pdf file.

(Which is why I don't like everyone sending their old zines etc. to places like this, because they're locked up to people who can afford to to/be affiliated with the university. I'm all about academia, but not about locking up fandoms in academia).

What I see from looking at DSpace is that it supports open source software repositories — but Texas A&M doesn't seem to be offering open source access to the Sandy Hereld Collection (which this zine is part of via that link).

The collection information says this:
Materials are restricted to users on the Texas A&M campus who are accessing the collection through IP authentication and Texas A&M affiliates who log in to the collection using their NetID and password. If you are outside the TAMU network and wish permission to access or reuse the images in this collection, please contact the collection curator, Jeremy Brett. (they give a link for Jeremy Brett, so maybe you could email him?)

In other words — her stuff is locked up to people who can afford to/be affiliated with this university.

So it sounds like DSpace is fibbing to you?! Or does it give access to the Sandy Hereld zines collection usually, and this is just an error? (And if so, then how do the rest of us access DSpace? Do you need anything in particular to sign up? *g*)

Also — I can see your post on Prosfinder too! *g*

Date: 2021-05-27 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Sorry, I'm going backwards through your comments, for some bizarre reason...

Okay, this zine is also from Oblique Publications, and is publically available anyway at the website I've linked to in my comment below.

Date: 2021-05-27 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Hmmn — I wonder if there's anything in common about other files DSpace gives you access to in the Sandy Hereld collection. For instance, as per below, the Oblique zines are already in the public domain, and so presumably can't be blocked by the affiliates-only policy. What other Pros zines has DSpace given you access to from the Sandy Hereld collection? That might be indicative...

Date: 2021-05-27 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Did you know that those zines, and the other Oblique zines, are all available here at the Oblique website (http://www.oblique-publications.net/oblique.html)? *g*

That's interesting — this link worked and took me to the zine pdf. I wonder if that's because it's already a publically available document though, and TexasA&M/Oakland/the Sandy Hereld Collection can't block access to it via their affliates-only policy, whereas the Roses and Lavender zines aren't openly available on the internet... (though many of their stories are posted to the various Pros archives individually).
Edited Date: 2021-05-27 10:13 am (UTC)

Date: 2021-05-27 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Drop me an email at slantedlight at g mail dotcom... *g*

Date: 2021-05-27 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] byslantedlight.livejournal.com
Okay — my guess is that DSpace is able to give you access to things that are already publically accessible on the internet — i.e., they're already Open Access. I'd like to be wrong though, so if it turns out you can access the Roses and Lavender zines online after all, do let me know! (That said, I'd also guess that not all authors in the zine have given permission for that to happen, either explicitly or implicitly via posting their work to other online archives themselves, which makes an interesting dilemma...)

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