Query about MI6 in Pros episodes

[unbelievable2.livejournal.com]

Could any kind soul help me with a query, please. I want to get facts straight before I go down too much of a dead end in the Box of Tricks fic I am writing.The question is: in canon, do the boys have any run-ins with MI6 (specifically, that is, not some vague "Minister") before Fall Girl? (Subsidiary queston is: does Willis appear befor that episode?).      I know it seems very lazy of me to ask and not trawl throught the episodes myself. But although that would not be a hardship ;)) time available is very limited and I realise now, to my great shame, that my knowledge of the episodes is not as great as I once thought it was!  Thanks in advance, and apols for the weird formatting today - LJ what are you doing to me?!

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[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Only Fall Girl and Spy Probe have MI6 directly involved in the plot. There are mentions elsewhere, however:

Blind Run
SECRETARY: Now, this is your direct on scrambler, and this is your list. The Home Secretary is one; MI6 is six; MI4 is four; CI5 is five.

Dead Reckoning
DOYLE: I still wouldn't trust (Batak).
COWLEY: Neither does MI6. That's why they asked us to handle the exchange and the debriefing.

Hijack
SCENE 16: Indian restaurant. Tom Ross joins Bodie at a table.
ROSS: Now, then. Who's paying for this? MI6 or CI5?

Lawson's Last Stand
BODIE: Well, if the Russians have grabbed (Lawson), he'll be back in Moscow in twenty-four hours.
DOYLE: And we'd have heard about it from MI6.
BODIE: But we haven't.

Madness of Mickey Hamilton
COWLEY: Never mind the sense right now. Let's get after the people involved. I just picked this up from MI6: a list of possible terrorist groups who'd like to stir up trouble between Babwesi and the West. Check them out. Make sure there's a round-the-clock guard on St Jacques. If these people want him dead badly enough, they’ll maybe try again.

A Stirring Of Dust
COWLEY: Skopshlev is becoming an embarrassment to MI6, Grigor. You'll have to jump him soon. He's too obvious. And he's got some hefty bills outstanding in Soho.
YASHINKOV: Third Secretary Skopshlev will be going back to Moscow immediately.
COWLEY: Aye. Otherwise we'll have the CIA poking their noses in.

Of these episodes, A Stirring of Dust and Blind Run are immediately before Fall Girl in both transmission & production order. MOMH and Dead Reckoning are in the following series. Make of this what you will!

[unbelievable2.livejournal.com]

OMG this is fabulous! Incredibly detailed, thank you so much. :))
And it tells me exactly what I needed to know about the timeline.
You are amazing! :))

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Thanks! The real credit goes to the Hatstand website, and the people who have contributed to it over the years.

[unbelievable2.livejournal.com]

Nevertheless, you are still wonderful! :))

[milomaus.livejournal.com]

I do have to agree: You are amazing!!

That was fun and interesting!

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Transcripts per http://hatstand.slashcity.net/eps.html :)

[unbelievable2.livejournal.com]

What an amazing resource! I had NO idea.....

[unbelievable2.livejournal.com]

It's amazing!

[moonlightmead.livejournal.com]

in canon, do the boys have any run-ins with MI6 (specifically, that is, not some vague "Minister") before Fall Girl? (Subsidiary queston is: does Willis appear befor that episode?).
I see kiwisue has already produced the evidence, but I must add: all these 'before and after this episode' questions are going to be so disordered now, because the latest lot of DVDs is ordered differently from both our generally accepted production order and transmission order. Argh!

[unbelievable2.livejournal.com]

How very frustrating that is! I am lucky in this case however, as what I'm doing is an "early days" sort of fic, so as long as there was nothing in the very early eps that established MI6 as a problem, I'm pretty safe, I think.
What a amazing place this comm is! So many wonderful people full of amazing knowledge! :))

[moonlightmead.livejournal.com]

I am agog with interest to know what this will all be about .

I too want to pick the collective brain of Pros fandom about 'does this scenario happen in the eps?' so I am glad that I am not the only one to be asking :)

[kiwisue.livejournal.com]

Has anyone posted a list of the new order, or said what the changes are? I have the original transmission list, and a production list, and I gather there have been some changes to the dates of the latter but don't know the details. I thought the Contender DVD's were (old) production order.

[moonlightmead.livejournal.com]

No, not yet. I'll post something later today.

[moonlightmead.livejournal.com]

I've just had a look at the new DVDs for the first series and the accompanying book. The new DVDs are in production order, and their idea of the production order is similar to the one on the Hatstand initially, but then diverges. Based on a quick riffle through the book (and no-one checking my notes, be warned) we have 13 episodes in the first series, including Klansmen and not including Rogue, going:

01: Old Dog With New Tricks filmed June-July 1977, first shown 13 Jan 1978 (so running order 3)
02: Long Shot, filmed June-July 1977, first shown 10 March 1978 (11!)
03: Where The Jungle Ends, filmed July 1977, first shown 3rd Feb 1978 (6)
04: Killer With A Long Arm, filmed July-August 1977, first shown 20 Jan 1978 (4)
05: Heroes, filmed August-September 1977, first shown 27 January 1978 (5)
06: Private Madness, Public Danger, filmed August-September 1977, first shown 30 December 1977 (1)
07: The Female Factor, filmed September-October 1977, first shown 6 January 1978 (2)
08: Everest Was Also Conquered, filmed October 1977, first shown 17 February 1978 (replaced CQ; 8)
09: Close Quarters, filmed November 1977, first shown 10 February 1978 (replaced Klansmen; 7)
10: Klansmen, filmed November 1977, not shown (scheduled for 10 Feb 1978)
11: Look After Annie, filmed November/December 1977, first shown 17 March 1978 (12)
12: Stake Out, filmed December 1977, first shown 3 March 1978 (10)
13: When The Heat Cools Off, filmed December 1977/January 1978, first shown 24 February 1978 (replaced Everest, 9)

Inevitably it's more complicated than this. I have ignored all the second unit filming and the 'need an extra minute' filming in favour of something that's actually comprehensible on a single glance. There were extra sessions for a lot of these a month or so after the bulk was completed. But they don't make that much difference.

Compare with The Hatstand's list of episodes in production order (http://hatstand.slashcity.net/epinfo/scripts-p.html) and we definitely have problems. (For completeness, The Hatstand also lists transmission order (http://hatstand.slashcity.net/epinfo/scripts.html) - thankfully the same as this - and alphabetical order (http://hatstand.slashcity.net/epinfo/scripts-a.html) - which I am starting to think is the safest option!

Also, I have to say, Look After Annie is not where I would choose to leave a series hanging (although Hunter/Hunted is a great start to series 2!)