The Reading Room - late but here now
Feb. 19th, 2010 04:24 pmApologies for my lateness, to readers who were keenly anticipating this post yesterday. But, unintentionally, posting today is apt because it’s our proper birthday! A year ago today was the first meeting of the Reading Room, and to celebrate we have “The Anniversary” by Sebastian.
http://hatstand.slashcity.net/sebastian/anniversary.html
http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/8/theanniversary.html
Sebastian Collected 1, Dog-house Press, 2002
This fic was kindly recced by Brigitte. Under the cut is a splendid short rec that Brigitte posted in a comment to my post of 15 February here at
ci5hq.
Sebastian’s story was wonderful - I know why I like her stories so much. The emotions aren't often directly spelled out, no prosaic description, no dialogue like: "I always loved you." - "Oh, you do? I love you too." - "Let's go to bed". Instead it's subtle, often a sort of second layer in the story, and when I read it I feel the emotions. And everything without sugar. The situation with the first kiss in the dark bathroom was really great. Brigitte.
*I presume it is okay for me to post this here. Please let me know, Brigitte, if it isn’t.
http://hatstand.slashcity.net/sebastian/anniversary.html
http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/8/theanniversary.html
Sebastian Collected 1, Dog-house Press, 2002
This fic was kindly recced by Brigitte. Under the cut is a splendid short rec that Brigitte posted in a comment to my post of 15 February here at
Sebastian’s story was wonderful - I know why I like her stories so much. The emotions aren't often directly spelled out, no prosaic description, no dialogue like: "I always loved you." - "Oh, you do? I love you too." - "Let's go to bed". Instead it's subtle, often a sort of second layer in the story, and when I read it I feel the emotions. And everything without sugar. The situation with the first kiss in the dark bathroom was really great. Brigitte.
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Date: 2010-02-19 06:28 pm (UTC)Of course it is o.k. to post this - but perhaps could you post the story by heliophile? It is quite interesting :) Brigitte.
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Date: 2010-02-19 07:27 pm (UTC)You are ahead of me! I took your offer of "The Anniversary" as being for now, and your suggestion of a fic by Heliophile for another week (I have not yet made up a schedule for the next few weeks but I will certainly include that one. Would the week after next - 4th March- suit you?).
I should explain myself more clearly - at the beginning of every week (usually Tuesday), I post with a reminder of the fic for that week, to give people a chance to read it (plus a list of fics scheduled for the week/s ahead if there are any). Later that week (usually Thursday) the reccer (or me on their behalf) does a post here at
Then, on Tuesday, I post about the next week's fic, and invite more fics to be recced for future weeks, and so on and so on.
Initially, I used to do it week by week. Whoever suggested a fic on Tuesday, did the recc on Thursday and that was that. But it seems to work better having fics suggested and scheduled a few weeks ahead.
There is more to
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Date: 2010-02-19 08:04 pm (UTC)I was browsing for fics with an anniversary or birthday theme, but eep - Sebastian? Friends will know I have a low tolerance of serious, long-drawn out angsty fics of the type I associate with Sebastian and M. Fae Glasgow, but increasingly I'm finding another side to Sebastian - short, bewitching and attractively lacking in angst. This week I've read (and enjoyed!)"Army Games" and "The Jungle Book", and here's another.
It's all rather wonderful but the most hauntingly beautiful image is of the swans, paired for life. aaaah.
With "Army Games" fresh in mind, I was also struck by Sebastian's apparent kink for the lads enjoying their first time in a tight situation with a high risk of being caught in flagrante.
BTW, I'm sure there are numerous fics that involve the lads celebrating a birthday, or "their" anniversary, or maybe talking about how they will celebrate in future years, but not usually as the main plot line - and could I find any? no.
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Date: 2010-02-19 08:53 pm (UTC)Bodie's guts knitted in response, his breath catching. Doyle continued to look at him, eyes gleaming a little; he tilted his head slightly, his curls shining bronze-tipped in the erratically dancing light of the candle and chandelier. Not knowing what else to do, Bodie smiled at him, quite an impersonal smile, then looked down at his plate.
Christ.
His heart was kicking fast and furious at his ribcage. He scythed the remaining cheesecake into wedges with his fork, then pushed it aside.
.....I’m hooked....…line and sinker and the rest of the story could have been written in braille or Chinese for all I cared, I would still have loved it just for that scene alone.
Friends will know I have a low tolerance of serious, long-drawn out angsty fics of the type I associate with Sebastian and M. Fae Glasgow
It’s funny but I don’t think I’ve ever thought of Sebastian’s stories as being drawn-out (November, possibly?), angsty yes, but not too long. I suppose that’s the difference between liking a writer or not? If you like certain writers their stories probably aren't going to be long enough and if you don’t like them, then they’re probably too long.
but increasingly I'm finding another side to Sebastian - short, bewitching and attractively lacking in angst. This week I've read (and enjoyed!)"Army Games" and "The Jungle Book", and here's another.
Sounds as if you probably like what's often been described as her 'earlier period'? (Sounds like Picasso!) Though I don't think it's always possible to draw a line between her writing which will hold because I think stories such as First Night, Last Night contain as much angst as later works and something like Pantomine is light on one level but deceptively light on another level and does a good job of mixing the two.
Sorry, I digress! I loved The Anniversary and should go and read it again.
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Date: 2010-02-19 09:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-19 09:49 pm (UTC)There is much truth in that! Some writers or fics you just don't want to end and would happily read through more and more episodes that portray particularly appealing characters and setting.
oh, I did wonder about 'earlier period' - I could imagine an author like Sebastian starting carefully, with shorter, lighter pieces, and then gaining the confidence to write longer and more serious fics.
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Date: 2010-02-19 10:16 pm (UTC)Yeah, though I think that poignant and insightful moments are dotted throughout her earlier works and conversely her later, more complex stories contain some of the wittiest characterisations and observations of any writer I know. But yes, I think I'd agree with you that there does seem to be some kind of evolution in her writing style and more than I've seen in any other writer.
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Date: 2010-02-21 05:28 pm (UTC)I have to say that when I fear my own writing is too repetitive or too prolific, I remind myself of how I feel about writers I love -- Kate MacLean and Sebastian in particular because both wrote relatively little and re-explored the same themes again and again. And yet I never get tired of re-reading them. I would be joyful (and I use the term in all seriousness) if a cache of Sebastian stories were to be uncovered (MacLean I keep working on, so maybe one day she'll take pity and write again).
So while I might pick critically at bits of Wonderful Tonight or November, I still love them and they could have been three times as long and drawn out, and I'd have been perfectly happy.
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Date: 2010-02-21 09:40 pm (UTC)So while I might pick critically at bits of Wonderful Tonight or November, I still love them and they could have been three times as long and drawn out, and I'd have been perfectly happy.
And I think sometimes being really critical (or objective) about a story is the highest compliment you can pay it. I love dissecting favourite films, turning them inside out, talking about them ad infinitum, watching them again and again and it’s the same with favourite stories (and music) – it’s great just letting the (loved) familiar wash over you. If the writing was boring, indifferent, failed to move the reader and left little impression you probably wouldn't give it a second glance or thought. And, as you implied, it doesn’t mean those favourite stories or writers are without fault. Take a story such as Heat-Trace, on the first couple of readings I thought it was perfect, then I began to see why others might not like it even though I still loved it. I was just about to completely contradict myself and say that maybe it's a bit like falling in love - love is blind and you can't see the faults until.... you begin to see the faults, but then that's not being objective, so perhaps a better analogy to describe the process between a reader and a favourite writer is that of having kids: you love them warts an' all.
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Date: 2010-02-21 05:12 pm (UTC)Anyway, I'll look forward to seeing the results of the challenge!
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Date: 2010-02-19 10:12 pm (UTC)"Serious, long-drawn out angsty fics of the type I associate with Sebastian and M. Fae Glasgow" ?? Oh no, not always, only sometimes! There are four stories by M Fae.Glasgow which are funny, light, and emotional without sugar. Brigitte.
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Date: 2010-02-19 11:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-20 04:54 am (UTC)Exactly four? I would say Jingle Balls is one of them!? - which are the others? I like her writing, but there are 'some' stories I didn't finish...
(still looking for a LJ pseudo? ;-))
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Date: 2010-02-20 04:36 am (UTC)Hehe! I really could go on quoting favourite parts of the story! :-)
Just one another – …Doyle's hand reached out and took him gently by the wrist. His heart storming thunderously in his chest, he slid in under the sheets, into a different world. It was strange and sweet and frightening…
Hey Doyle, guess what I dreamed last night…
Well, normally I’m not much into such flowery phrases. But this all sucks you into that special mood...
*happy sigh*
Thanks Brigitte, for that suggestion!
And a happy anniversary to the Reading Room!
I really enjoyed this year, and there were a few brilliant stories among that I would never have read without the RR.
Thank you all – but especially Jaycat92!
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Date: 2010-02-20 02:08 pm (UTC)I love doing this, so I'll keep on doing it as long as people like you keep on being enthusiastic.
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Date: 2010-02-20 11:51 am (UTC)The anticipatory atmosphere of the dinner party, the meeting in the night while the house sleeps around them, and then the next morning surrounded by the other agents again, it's all magic. And the "swans mate for life" comment gives me the nicest kind of shivers.
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Date: 2010-02-20 12:16 pm (UTC)No long talking, just Doyle's: "Everyone knows that," came Doyle's gentle voice behind him. "Dumb crud."
And everything is clear! Sigh...
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Date: 2010-02-20 12:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-20 12:39 pm (UTC)Yes, definitely a story to read 'over and over again'!
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Date: 2010-02-20 12:41 pm (UTC)"Beating Around The Bush" (hilarious slapstick moments of silence and noise), "Footbridge" (a somehow drunken Cowley and wandering feet), "My Beautiful Launderette" (sharing pants and soap powder - but no curtain fic) and "Permanently Attached at the Hip" (wonderful pun in the title and a Doyle with awful hair problems).
Her fifth story is dark and wonderful and touching and heartbreaking: "Sunday Bloody Sunday". Brigitte.
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Date: 2010-02-20 01:03 pm (UTC)But I will try these stories!
Do you know 'Wish I Wasn't Here'?
http://community.livejournal.com/ci5hq/113436.html
I love it!
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Date: 2010-02-20 08:14 pm (UTC)http://hatstand.slashcity.net/aa/authors-l.html#scotian
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Date: 2010-02-20 08:56 pm (UTC)A lady with many different personalities...
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Date: 2010-02-20 10:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-21 05:37 pm (UTC)She beautifully captures the illicit delight of the risky sex. And the fact that she can imbue such a simple, uncomplicated story with so much -- so many lovely layers -- really speaks to her skill.
It's one of my favorite stories and I reread it often.
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Date: 2010-02-22 06:20 pm (UTC)Oh, I liked that story. The sweetness of it; the meeting in the dark; the idea of getting found out. Really nice. I almost didn't get past the first bit since I found the beginning not very Bodie-like. I think Bodie would revel in showing his posh manners in a situation like that, and play it to the hilt. He'd like the good food an freely flowing alcohol. After all, he seemed to like playing up in Untouchables, and since he dressed in a tie in many eps (seemingly of his own choice as Doyle was scruffy), I don't think he'd find the tie awful. But it was a delightful read. Made me smile and love the lads even more.
It's quite sentimental to be talking about celebrating their anniversary next year, so I'm surprised a lot of folks like that much mush. Me, I loved it.
Thanks for the rec.
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Date: 2010-02-22 09:27 pm (UTC)http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/3/througha.html
but if you liked The Anniversary then you might enjoy this one, too, because for some reason these two stories have always reminded me of each other and I love them both.
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Date: 2010-02-22 10:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-24 12:26 am (UTC)Anyway, sounds like you're glad you persevered.