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Scenes from the Edge - Kate MacLean
Orignally published in Unprofessional Conduct 5 through Gryphon Press


He'd always known, hadn't he, what the danger was for him. Known instinctively deep down, that if he ever really let himself fall -- really love someone completely -- he would lose it all. His independence, his dignity, his apartness, his sense of self-preservation. If he ever really let himself love, he wouldn't be able to hold anything back; he'd just ... give himself away. He'd known that.


When I joined Pros Lit way back when and asked for reading recs, one name that frequently cropped up -- and seemed to stir passions -- was that of Kate MacLean. Naturally I was curious and headed over to the CA where I found…Telling Marge. It was a well-written little story but I didn’t see what the fuss was about. Why was Katie MacLean hated and feared in some quarters -- and adored in others?




I read Justacat’s legendary essay on MacLean’s work and it made me eager to read more. Unfortunately the body of her work -- relatively small in Pros -- was in zines at the time. I managed to get my hands on a copy of Yellow Brick Road and I loved it. The writing was crisp, clean -- the emotional tension riveting. I was hooked. For those of you who deplore MacLean’s “nasty” Doyle, give YBR a try. I think you might be surprised.

At some point I purchased a copy of Redemption -- and it remains one of my all time favorite fics -- but I also love the series of novellas she did for Gryphon Press: Building on Rainbows, Choosing, Scenes from the Edge, and All or Nothing. These are not comfort reads. To put it lightly. But I find them sexy, romantic, moving -- and believable (within the construct of Pros). In fact, I believe I’ll borrow from Justacat here -- I don’t think I could put this any better.

KM does as good a job as any author I've ever read at evoking these difficult feelings. She takes these tough, tough guys, who are, or have been, confident in their invulnerability, their imperviousness to the softer emotions - guys who are used to deflecting impassioned "I love you"s from their women, used to moving on, used to avoiding commitment, used to breaking hearts - and shows us what happens when they come face to face with their achilles heel, their single massive (and unexpected, and unwanted) vulnerability, the one person who, for whatever reason - fate? destiny? karma? who knows... - has the power to crack them open, bring them to their knees, break through their previously unshakable self-possession. And it hurts, oh how it hurts - them, of course, but also us.

Although endings are not MacLean’s strong point, I find resolution and hope -- and even a measure of satisfaction in them all.

MacLean herself has said that these novellas are basically the same story over and over again -- forgetting perhaps that revisiting themes and motifs is common in the work of writers great and small alike. And, in my opinion, her themes -- internalized homophobia, the power dynamics of sex, the responsibility and obligations of love, the romance of violence -- are universal and worth re-exploring. I never get tired of reading her stories. In fact, a new Kate MacLean story is on my Christmas list (are you listening Santa?).

Scenes from the Edge is probably my favorite of the novellas -- although it’s hard to choose.
In the prologue Doyle, burned and bitter after being dumped by Ann Holly, has resolved that from now on everyone else is going to the running. He’s never going to be this vulnerable again. He’s never going to allow himself to go over the “edge” again. When the story next picks up, Bodie is brooding over the inequity of his relationship with Doyle.

He was totally unused to this, his appointed role in this relationship. Never thought to be the one out of emotional control, the dependent, the beggar for crumbs. Faithful old dog, Bodie. Oh yeah… that was him all right. Totally fucking pathetic, and he just couldn't seem to stop, grab control of his life again.


Bodie and Doyle have been lovers since May Li shot Doyle. They altered their partnership against Bodie’s better instinct, but once he let go and fell…he fell hard. His feelings for Ray, or perhaps the instinct that he’s fighting a losing battle, have made him jealous, insecure, dependent, obsessive…he hates who he’s become. Worse, he can sense that Doyle despises him too -- and that Doyle is probably going to leave him.

And this is pretty much Doyle’s mindset. Doyle does not consider himself gay and he has no intention of “marrying” Bodie. He tells himself what they have is just sex…although he acknowledges that he probably feels more for Bodie than anyone on the planet, and that sex with Bodie is better than with anyone else. He finds himself missing Bodie when Bodie’s away on an op which makes him all the more impatient and frustrated and determined to prove his independence to himself. He winds up having a one night stand with a handsome artist’s model. The sex is great but…there’s just something missing.

When he arrives home, Bodie has returned early and Doyle is panicked that Bodie not discover he’s strayed. He’s uneasily aware that there are some things Bodie might not forgive. But Bodie trusts him and things go back to normal. Actually, things are better than normal. Doyle is calmer and contented now that he’s proved to himself he’s still a free agent. And Bodie -- having made a resolution of his own -- has pulled back a bit, which ironically seems to draw Doyle forward. It seems as though they might have at last found their perfect balance.

There’s just one shiny little thing Doyle forgot…

Date: 2009-12-10 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callistosh65.livejournal.com
I'm with you, firmly esconced in the Kate-Maclean-walks-on-water brigade..*g* I love all her novellas, with Redemption as one of my favourite rereads of anything ever. You're right, it's not comfort fic per se - these are not easy men she's describing. Their sexuality - their achilles heel - is not something a kiss or two is ever going to have them accepting right away.

But therein lies the drama and her storytelling skill, right? I love, love, love her Bodie in Edge, and in Redemption. How he quite literally claws back his dignity, puts up his walls, and everything is thrown onto Doyle being able to make himself vulnerable enough to get through again. It is exquisite to watch that unfold.

I know a lot of folk don't respond well to how hard she makes them work to be together, or how much they hurt each other in the process of getting there, but like you, I find resolution, hope and satisfaction in all her stories.

Thank you! I'm so glad you put this together and I had a chance to think about why I like Kate Maclean so much.
Edited Date: 2009-12-10 08:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-12-10 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] constant-muse.livejournal.com
Haven't managed to read all of [livejournal.com profile] justacat's essay yet, but wanted to thank you for your tantalising rec, and for the link to justacat's.

This is all new to me. I've just read "Scenes from the Edge" and liked it a lot.

I particularly liked the rhythm and pace of the story, and how Doyle reached a low point near the middle, so that the last part was more optimistic.

In any fic where Bodie packs his bags, I'm usually reaching for the hankies or stopping reading, but this time I was rooting for him - thanks to KM's writing, it seemed perfectly the right thing to do, and Bodie was so dignified, putting his life back together and resisting temptation when Ray offered it.

I liked too that KM could keep Bodie and Doyle working together convincingly, professionally. Much more attractive to me than angsty fics where one has to leave CI5/London/the country before they come back together. Perhaps it makes the story more convincing - in parallel with their anguished relationship, they are still working together, bantering together, in the showers together. *vbg*. so there is a firm foundation for their relationship to continue in some form.

ooh, and the encounter with Cam at the pub, how brilliantly written that was! It just jumped off the page as exactly how that sort of scene would play out in real life (back in the days when real life was interesting, that is. *g*).
The silence stretched, and at last, Doyle looked up from his careful study of the table and met Bodie's stare. His eyes were blank, Bodie saw, nothing there to read at all, and he didn't flinch at what he saw in Bodie's face. He looked calm, remote, serene.
Bodie swallowed, and looked away, and then up at the stranger, Cam. The man had finally stopped smiling now, apparently thrown at last by Doyle's absolute coldness and not half as confident as he pretended to be and yet Bodie could see, with a peculiar detachment, some of his own old determination there, to get through to Doyle.


I take your point about the ending. I don't know how I would have ended it either, but hmmm, unexpectedly, it left me feeling quite uneasy about the plausibility of the final scene, but given that it happened, uneasy about their future.

Date: 2009-12-10 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
I think I'd agree with most of what's been said above and to add that I too love all of KM's stories to the extent that I'm still receiving therapy for Redemption withdrawal symptoms - it got to me that much. I've really nothing much more to add - certainly nothing profound to add - but I just wanted to mention one thing which struck me as I read Scenes and that was how acute her observations of people and their relationships are (she reminds me of Sebastian in this respect) and how good she is at writing of the inequities - or imbalance - of being in love i.e. the rarity of findng two people who love equally. And if Bodie and Doyle did actually exist in real life - given the kind of men they are - then this is how I would imagine they'd fall in love - *this* is how love would be for them: hard, rocky and completely overwhelming. Fantastic.

Thanks very much for your introduction and for the rec itself. Another great story!

Date: 2009-12-10 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inlovewithboth.livejournal.com
I absolutely love this story, read it twice through straight away. I felt so bad for Bodie when Ray was shagging around, and almost thought he wasn't going to take him back at the end. But how can anyone resist...

"You oughta know Bodie... I can't ... ever let you go now. Kill you if you try to leave me."

Brilliant. Thank you.

Date: 2009-12-11 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siskiou.livejournal.com
I guess I'll be the lone voice with the opposite reaction to this (and most other KM stories).
My main problem with KM's Bodie and Doyle is that I don't see Doyle as an arrogant bastard who treats Bodie badly (for whatever reason) and Km's Bodie is usually someone I don't recognize easily from how I perceive him. I just can't see him sticking it out with a Doyle like that. He seems much stronger and more self-assured to me in canon than he appears in KM's stories.
Their relationship seems to be much more about power than love, and her endings really don't work for me at all.
It never feels like both of them are getting back together for love, and I don't feel reassured that their relationship will have a chance at being successful.
It feels very much like an emotional seesaw to me, with the scales usually starting out up for Doyle, who holds all the power and Bodie feeling mistreated and/or betrayed, and then things swing the other way, but it never feels like they are equals and happy together.

It's not that I deteat conflict between the two, or want puppies and rose-colored glasses, but I miss the camaraderie and genuine fondness and love I see between then in canon.
Even assuming Doyle has problems with intimacy, and Bodie is much more insecure than he lets on, I find what they do to each other too damaging to come out believing they are good for and with each other in the end.

And I wish I could, because her writing is brilliant!

Date: 2009-12-11 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siskiou.livejournal.com
Let me rephrase that:
assuming Doyle has problems with intimacy *to the extend he does in KM's stories*...

Her interpretation of the characters work for many people, but I just can't help not liking her Bodie and Doyle all that much, especially her Doyle.

Date: 2009-12-11 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siskiou.livejournal.com
I love stories with conflict, too, and longer, plotty ones. They are my favorite, especially with a little h/c thrown in (though a sweet story now and then to balance things out, is terrific).
But I do need to be convinced Bodie and Doyle love and care for each other throughout the conflict, even if they'd never admit it (for example like in the recently discussed "Black Sheep")!
With KM, there is a little too much outright disdain and genuine dislike between the characters and their psychological make-up (in her stories) just puts them over the line into me not caring all that much for them.

Maybe if her POV weren't so tight and usually solely from Bodie, it might work better for me.

Date: 2009-12-11 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
"Maybe if her POV weren't so tight and usually solely from Bodie, it might work better for me."
Can't say so! ;-)

Date: 2009-12-11 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siskiou.livejournal.com
Now, I can't think why that would be the case! *g* ;)

Date: 2009-12-14 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
"I have a theory that if you strongly prefer one lad over the other, it's more satisfying for the story to be told from the OTHER lad's POV. Do you think that's true?"
No!
I prefer to be in Bodie's head!
I'm mainly interested in HIS feelings and thoughts. What others think about him may be totally wrong and wouldn't help to explore him... :-)

BTW - I love it when the same event is told from different POVs. Normally Bodie's, Doyle's and Cowley's.
And I'm just waiting for Sand Castle by Elizabeth Holden, a Wild Justice story - or let's say three stories.

Date: 2009-12-16 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
"I like seeing the characters through other characters' eyes --"
So you are the extrovert type - I'm more the introvert... :-)

But I've reread my comment - it sounds a bit Bodie focuses... *shakes head*.
I totally agree in your: "I need both lads in order for a story to work for me -- the partnership, the friendship, the relationship (however it is defined --" - but if I had to make a choice... :-)

But back to the story - I need both lads being fair and caring and loving (to) each other - so KML IS a challenge I'm not always ready to take(?)!

BTW - "And that brings one question to mind: do you have anything Pros in the works? :)
Always. *g* It's just finding the time to write."


Always? Any B/D already ready and available? - respectively who is who in your Dangerous Ground series?
Edited Date: 2009-12-16 08:44 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-12-14 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siskiou.livejournal.com
Yes, this particular story has a mixed POV, which would work well for me if I liked her characters more. :)

Generally, I like to get a good picture of both lads' thoughts and motivations (though not *always* depending on the story). Very tight POV usually lacks something for me, but again, not always. Doesn't matter if it's Doyle's or Bodie's.

And I'm not sure I fall into the "strongly prefer one lad over the other" category. It's more a case of *slight preference*, and I can't say it's more satisfying for me to read stories told from the other's POV.

Date: 2009-12-15 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siskiou.livejournal.com
And that brings one question to mind: do you have anything Pros in the works? :)

Date: 2009-12-11 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
I'm to blame - I haven't read the story this time. For many reasons I'm in the moment in the mood for happy, comfortable, exciting and nice stories...
I've read it about a year ago and I know many stories from KML and except Yellow Brick Road I like them all and wil certainly reread them sometimes.

But for me all her stories (except the teaser Telling Marge) are OOC. A good read but nothing to do with Bodie and Doyle - for me.

"...it's consistent and focused."
Sorry, I don't know what you mean exactly with that - there are so many possibilities in German.

But if you mean 'unambiguous' with 'consistent', and if you say that being 'focused' means 'being correct' with a characterisation - then I happily disagree!
As I said – OOC! Susanne has told some of the reasons why I think so.

"Yes, a large part of the pleasure of these stories is the writing itself."
Here I can agree!

No matter what – a good rec! Thank you!

Date: 2009-12-11 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
"...often comes up with characterizations I don't see, yet she convinces me for the space of a story."
Good point.
But for me as a reader it would be even more satisfying if these abilities of creating such a tight characterization would come along with the persons we know (and love) from the show!

Date: 2009-12-14 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-fossil.livejournal.com
Thanks for the review.

I can't enjoy a story where I dislike both main characters. It's a personal failing of mine because respect is one thing I must insist on in any relationship in order to survive. There is no respect (not much love either) in these characters. I don't see any Bodie or Doyle from canon.

For an original fic writer, KM excels. She just rarely writes Pros for me. I understand a good writer can convince people of their universe, which is cool. Ultimately when I want Pros, I want Pros. I do read original fic and have no problem reading a story in that light. Larton, for example, is not Pros in the slightest to me, yet enjoyable in its own right. However, if I hate both men, I could care less if they live, survive and thrive. I'm so ambivalant it's not funny.

I need an emotional attachment to at least one character, and here I'm left with nothing. Well written just doesn't work in this instance for me.

Date: 2009-12-15 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squeeful.livejournal.com
I don't derive any satisfaction from people being metaphorically brought to their knees and I have a tendency to throw away a fic after reading if that's where the author goes. Maybe I might someday be able to step back and enjoy the craft of the writing but as KM hits both of my dislikes of "I neither like nor respect either of these people" and "relationship problems are always X character's fault" at once, plus the aforementioned lack of satisfaction, not any time soon. Why would I want to continue reading stuff that makes me need to take a shower?

Date: 2009-12-16 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metabolick.livejournal.com
I haven't read this fic in a long time, so I don't have anything specific to say about it. I do, however, want to address the issue of KM as a writer.

Put me firmly in the camp of KM fans. Her characterizations of the lads are definitely not consistent with canon lads, but if I only read stories where they were I would have slim pickings indeed. There are certain places I won't go with a writer (death fic, for instance), but KM never takes me too far. When I'm in the mood for a real emotional rollercoaster she fits the bill almost better than anyone else. What I admire most about her writing is her ability to convey the need the lads have for each other, the way they simply cannot live without each other. I always sympathize with her characters, even Doyle at his most unkind, because she convinces me of his motivations, his vulnerability, his fear, his self-protectiveness. She makes me feel right along with the characters. I greatly admire KM for her ability to do that; it's a rare talent.

Date: 2009-12-16 10:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] krisserci5.livejournal.com
Kate's work is not an easy read, but some of the best Pros discussions have been about her body of work. Her writing stirs great passion and yea or nea, it begs, no demands to be discussed.

Kate has an amazing talent to be able to elicit such passion from readers.

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