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As if it wasn't cold and dark enough today (or hot and sticky enough, depending), here's

"The Snowman with the Dark Coat" by Castalia

http://hatstand.slashcity.net/castalia/snowman.html
http://www.thecircuitarchive.com/tca/archive/8/thesnowman.html
Printed in: Roses and Lavender 4, Allamagoosa Press, 2001

This starts out like a lot of the eps, in the middle of a story. Something's happened between the lads - what is it, why are they on the out with each other, and how is
it going to come right? Castalia writes beautifully, dreamily, atmospherically - sometimes someone is so good that you feel everything the lads feel. I adore that - but what do you think?

Date: 2009-11-27 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiwisue.livejournal.com
Well, I'll stand by my previous [livejournal.com profile] crack_van rec:

"The yearning for love, thwarted, denied…. The hot, needy, sex. The “I think it’s going to be all right but I’m not quite sure” ending. The cool (no pun intended) action sequences in the snow.

The evocative writing. Just one little sentence captures something of the essence of this story:

“And the snow, falling fast and thick one moment, turning into polluted water on the streets the moment after, unforeseeable, making everything more difficult, more dirty.”

The next bit I suggest you read after you’ve read the fic:

There’s a recurring line in “Wonderful Tonight” (previously reccd by Phantomas here) where Kate Ross says of Doyle that he’s “missing the point”. In “Snowman” Bodie is the one who is just not seeing/hearing what Doyle is trying to tell him. Here’s what he missed:

"Still love you, mate."
"I deserve a second chance"
"How many times have I told you? I'm not playing, Bodie.’
"You know I care, don't you?"
"It was not crap. Not for me, mate."
"I didn't...know it was that serious, for you."
"You're still playing with me, aren't you?" … "No," he said, slowly. "No, I'm not."
"My point is--"… "--that I did say I was sorry. That I did say I was wrong. D'you know what you're doing to us? D'you really know it?"

All the above, of course, is built up over time to help make a maddingly enjoyable read. Even if I did feel a lot like shaking the silly twerp & yelling "of course he loves you, you idiot, now forgive him and make up!!"

One last thing I loved about the fic – Sally! She’s one of my favourite CI5 women, & here she's given the proper respect & drawn tough & smart. A nice cameo."

Date: 2009-11-27 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Castalia writes beautifully, dreamily, atmospherically - sometimes someone is so good that you feel everything the lads feel. I adore that - but what do you think?

What do I think? I think yes, yes and yes - I couldn’t agree more! I’ve always thought of Snowman as a mature story written by a grown-up for grown-ups and about grownups in a grown-up relationship and being a grownup I loved it.....

While the writing’s not really like Helen Raven’s I’d say my response to it and the way I read it is similar to the way I read HR's: at times I almost forgot to breathe and at one stage definitely paused in the eating of my banana in order to concentrate 100% on writing like this:

"Can't help it," Doyle answered, in a similar murmur. He lifted his right hand, the sleeve tightening around his shoulder, his biceps. His fingertips touched Bodie's dark head, rested on his hair, still wet, followed a water drop, sliding over Bodie's brows, his cheek, one fingertip moving further down, reaching chin, then naked neck, to stop right against the black woollen edge of the pullover.

What else did I love? Apart from all my favourite ingredients for a good story like memorable (erotic) atmosphere, wonderfully executed sex scenes, grittyness and a distinct lack of slush between the lads? Hmmm......…loved the frequent references to snow and the way the writer makes good use of it throughout the story. I suppose snow can symbolise all kinds of things, but what I took from it here was the silent, calm, lonesome (for some, depressing)and at times, claustrophobic world of snow - another world - was a fitting context for how we view their relationship: initially stuck together on obbo with the hours stretching endlessly and silently (like snow) until it was so dark he couldn't distinguish where the walls of the house across the street started and the sky ended. His eyes then lingered on Bodie, all stiff back and cramped legs, a darker outline against the dark sky.....(love the frequent links between them and the elements) and then how the relationship evolves - how they're both feeling about each other (and particularly Doyle):

Doyle stood still, panting, a lonely dark figure, a small point in the vast white, in the cold night. A small, solitary thing...seen from above, lost.

...and lost in the relationship? Oh, well, *I* liked it.....

And the scene where Bodie curls up on the sofa to the sound of Doyle's voice - swoon.

Yes! Completely agree.

Lovely rec and thank you - whoever you are - for the choice!


Edited Date: 2009-11-28 08:18 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-11-28 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Doyle stood still, panting, a lonely dark figure, a small point in the vast white, in the cold night. A small, solitary thing...seen from above, lost...........

I was going to criticise this image for making Doyle look too pathetic. But then it occurred to me that it is a precursor to the final scene where Doyle is literally lost out in the snow, but that time Bodie comes to find him and in his desperation overcomes the almost impossible odds of finding the 'lonely dark figure...in the cold night'.


Ah, excellent point and I think you're probably right. I took it to be a reflection of how he was 'lost' in their relationship, floundering and not knowing what to do next in terms of Bodie (even though it seems that he, Doyle, was the cause of the rift in the first place) but I think I prefer your interpretation.

Date: 2009-11-29 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
"I’ve always thought of Snowman as a mature story written by a grown-up for grown-ups and about grownups in a grown-up relationship and being a grownup I loved it....."

Yes, but sometimes grown-up stuff is a disturbance in our neatly constructed escapism! ;-)

So I stopped reading and started some Meg Ryan kind of story instead. An Affair To Remember by Meg Lewtan... :-)

Date: 2009-11-29 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
I don't read much M.Fae Glasgow. I think I started some but didn't finish them.
I just know Jingle Balls and Wish I Wasn't Here (which I love!).

"I'm right with you on escapism, though. The fics I like best are full of love and romance and humour and exciting action, and hot sex of course. "Snowman" had all of these."
I believe it! And the story is in my 'to read' folder - but not at the moment! ;-)
Just look at the first 5 pages - too much desperation, defence, silence and misunderstanding between them...

Date: 2009-11-29 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Yes, but sometimes grown-up stuff is a disturbance in our neatly constructed escapism! ;-)

Yup, that's true. I'm not always in the mood for being grown-up either and I can enjoy escapist stories very much, hence my love for Pam Rose's Arabian Nights and the early parts of The Hunting.

Date: 2009-11-29 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
So you know what I mean. And now IS the time for something 'else'!
Arabian Nighs is a good idea to reread btw...
But why just the early parts of The Hunting? (I don't know it.)

Date: 2009-11-29 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
But why just the early parts of The Hunting? (I don't know it.)

Because I hadn't read the rest...HAHAHAHAHAH!!! No seriously, I *haven't* read all the rest but it did start to get very repetitive after the first few parts... You know the kind of thing, lots of outdoor sex, Doyle being treated like a girl by Bodie, lots of outdoor eating/picnics, lots of outdoor sex and then you had lots of
sex/eating/sex/eating/few fights/more sex/more eating and so on until it began to remind me of Enid Blyton but I did *love* the first couple of parts (I can't remember how many exactly. I think Parts 1 -5 are online).
Edited Date: 2009-11-29 07:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-11-29 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firlefanzine.livejournal.com
LOL! That's not very convincing to start reading it... ;-)
I mean I understand if an actor doesn't want to leave a long running show - but why should a writer do that???????????
LOL! "...lots os outdoor sex.... more sex.... sex...."

Date: 2009-12-01 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shooting2kill.livejournal.com
Thank you! Not very analytical, but spoken from the heart.

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