but I think I do see fragments of Bodie in this story, even at this early stage e.g. loyalty to a friend; not finding verbal communication very easy but expressing himself physically; some kind of attachment/honour to the army; some kind of respect for Cowley Yeah, I see some of those I guess, but for me they're disbalanced (it's a word now!) against his over-brutality... Although perhaps it's having more of an impact on me because I have to read and then pause and think about it and then wait for a week before I can read the next chapter! If I just read on as usual, I'd find out whether he redeems himself, and I'd feel better about it more quickly - but as it is, I have to wait! And think! *g* Whose idea was this..?!
He *is* violent but it’s more a case of losing his temper whereas canon Bodie is pretty much in control of his violence That's just why I'd find Doyle more frightening, I think - a temper can't be controlled, whereas Bodie is in control (in the eps - I'm not convinced in this fic!)
Bodie’s face actually darkens with anger but he just about manages to contain himself and yet it’s no less deadly and terrifies me which Doyle’s temper never does. I suppose I’d always hope that Doyle is open to reason whereas I’m not sure Bodie’s version of reason would correspond with mine! Hmmn, I guess we're just different here then, because Doyle's temper scares me much more. I'd rather face someone who can contain themselves than someone who can't any day - and I don't see Doyle's temper as something that can be reasoned with. When he's his usual self, then reason all the way, but when he's cross about something and about to throw someone from a high building..?! Give me Bodie's control, right then! *g*
And talking of Sebastian, there’s is a story by her which I can’t find and can’t remember the title of, where the lads have got someone in custody and they torture him purely for sadistic reasons. It’s horrible, pointless and I just don’t see them here Oh, do you mean Helen Raven's (Wild Horse's) Technique (http://www.oblique-publications.net/archives/paeanvi/technique.pdf)? Because I agree with you...
All of this, and I guess I had the lads killing someone in relatively cold blood in If There be Werewolves and Vampires (or so I was told at the time), so... maybe we just have to come to our own justifications...
If Cowley shoots people in the back who aren’t even threatening his life then he can’t really expect different standards from the men beneath him. In theory he can't, but I'm not sure that he doesn't... Although I suppose maybe the equivalent is the lads shooting someone they think is threatening their life at the time - when Cowley wants them brought in alive. So maybe, because he forgives them ultimately...
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RE: Part 2
Date: 2019-04-07 09:44 pm (UTC)but I think I do see fragments of Bodie in this story, even at this early stage e.g. loyalty to a friend; not finding verbal communication very easy but expressing himself physically; some kind of attachment/honour to the army; some kind of respect for Cowley
Yeah, I see some of those I guess, but for me they're disbalanced (it's a word now!) against his over-brutality... Although perhaps it's having more of an impact on me because I have to read and then pause and think about it and then wait for a week before I can read the next chapter! If I just read on as usual, I'd find out whether he redeems himself, and I'd feel better about it more quickly - but as it is, I have to wait! And think! *g* Whose idea was this..?!
He *is* violent but it’s more a case of losing his temper whereas canon Bodie is pretty much in control of his violence
That's just why I'd find Doyle more frightening, I think - a temper can't be controlled, whereas Bodie is in control (in the eps - I'm not convinced in this fic!)
Bodie’s face actually darkens with anger but he just about manages to contain himself and yet it’s no less deadly and terrifies me which Doyle’s temper never does. I suppose I’d always hope that Doyle is open to reason whereas I’m not sure Bodie’s version of reason would correspond with mine!
Hmmn, I guess we're just different here then, because Doyle's temper scares me much more. I'd rather face someone who can contain themselves than someone who can't any day - and I don't see Doyle's temper as something that can be reasoned with. When he's his usual self, then reason all the way, but when he's cross about something and about to throw someone from a high building..?! Give me Bodie's control, right then! *g*
And talking of Sebastian, there’s is a story by her which I can’t find and can’t remember the title of, where the lads have got someone in custody and they torture him purely for sadistic reasons. It’s horrible, pointless and I just don’t see them here
Oh, do you mean Helen Raven's (Wild Horse's) Technique (http://www.oblique-publications.net/archives/paeanvi/technique.pdf)? Because I agree with you...
All of this, and I guess I had the lads killing someone in relatively cold blood in If There be Werewolves and Vampires (or so I was told at the time), so... maybe we just have to come to our own justifications...
If Cowley shoots people in the back who aren’t even threatening his life then he can’t really expect different standards from the men beneath him.
In theory he can't, but I'm not sure that he doesn't... Although I suppose maybe the equivalent is the lads shooting someone they think is threatening their life at the time - when Cowley wants them brought in alive. So maybe, because he forgives them ultimately...