The thing is it, it all depends on your interpretation of what happens in the show, of course!
Well...yeah! But then we have to start figuring in what was the most likely dramatic effect intended by the writers and director, and that REALLY complicates matters.
No, I think the other way around - I think that Doyle shot her, although Julia did shoot. At the end Bodie takes the gun away from her and says "I think this'll be safer in my hands", which suggests to me that she shot well wide...
Unless Doyle had special cornering bullets, there's no way he made that shot. Inge's upstairs and around the corner when he bursts in. I think Bodie's comment stands either way because Julie is clearly not experienced with guns, and just as likely to shoot herself and Bodie next -- you see this exact scene in a million westerns and cop shows when the non-violent love interest (sorry!) is forced to kill in order to save the violent hero of the piece.
Yeah, I'm sure that's part of why Bodie's angry (my slashy brain adds another part!) but he also says that CI5 regs state that Doyle should have shot from the door, not come into the room and shot - suggesting that Doyle ignored the regs and put himself in danger to make sure that he wouldn't shoot Bodie by accident.
That's certainly true, but does it actually count as Doyle saving Bodie, because it looks like they were just following their plan, with Doyle maybe putting himself at extra risk to avoid taking Bodie out.
Oh, I've never watched it that way, I always see Doyle as basically free before then, because he easily overcame Parker and would have been able to escape. He'd have done this whether or not Bodie (and CI5 in fact) opened fire. But yeah, Bodie acted before Cowley's orders, because he wanted to save Doyle...
So that little acknowledging nod that Doyle gives Bodie at the end when he's standing there rubbing his wrists, you take that to be just a simple "Hiya," and not "Thanks, mate, I owe you one."?
In Hunter/Hunted, Bodie's already tracking Doyle down Well, Bodie has got as far as knowing Brownie was involved, but he would have had no way to find Doyle in the huge London docks, except that Cowley had figured out the Kathy Mason connection and called Bodie in, so that they could (presumably) frighten the plan and Doyle's whereabouts out of her...
Ah, but this is Seventies/Eighties cop TV! Bodie would OF COURSE have tracked Doyle down. However, since they stuck Cowley into it, I concede we're supposed to see it as a joint rescue effort.
DiaG... so my thought is no one else would arrive in time. It's definitely possible... depends how long Doyle would have survived, just lying there really... *g*
Well, from a dramatic standpoint...all that Bodie rushing around and stuffing tea towels up Doyles ruined jacket, the scene surely only exists to show us Bodie saving Doyle? Otherwise we'd have a scene similar to what we get in Klansmen where we cut instantly to Bodie being wheeled into the hospital and Doyle sniffing over his fallen form. Every scene, every frame, has to be there for a purpose.
Ooh yes, Fugitive - good call! And I've just realised, they come out even in that ep then! I wonder if anyone's mentioned that in a fic!
What a great poll this would be! People could vote on who saves whom in which episodes! Could be very funny.
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Well...yeah! But then we have to start figuring in what was the most likely dramatic effect intended by the writers and director, and that REALLY complicates matters.
No, I think the other way around - I think that Doyle shot her, although Julia did shoot. At the end Bodie takes the gun away from her and says "I think this'll be safer in my hands", which suggests to me that she shot well wide...
Unless Doyle had special cornering bullets, there's no way he made that shot. Inge's upstairs and around the corner when he bursts in. I think Bodie's comment stands either way because Julie is clearly not experienced with guns, and just as likely to shoot herself and Bodie next -- you see this exact scene in a million westerns and cop shows when the non-violent love interest (sorry!) is forced to kill in order to save the violent hero of the piece.
Yeah, I'm sure that's part of why Bodie's angry (my slashy brain adds another part!) but he also says that CI5 regs state that Doyle should have shot from the door, not come into the room and shot - suggesting that Doyle ignored the regs and put himself in danger to make sure that he wouldn't shoot Bodie by accident.
That's certainly true, but does it actually count as Doyle saving Bodie, because it looks like they were just following their plan, with Doyle maybe putting himself at extra risk to avoid taking Bodie out.
Oh, I've never watched it that way, I always see Doyle as basically free before then, because he easily overcame Parker and would have been able to escape. He'd have done this whether or not Bodie (and CI5 in fact) opened fire. But yeah, Bodie acted before Cowley's orders, because he wanted to save Doyle...
So that little acknowledging nod that Doyle gives Bodie at the end when he's standing there rubbing his wrists, you take that to be just a simple "Hiya," and not "Thanks, mate, I owe you one."?
In Hunter/Hunted, Bodie's already tracking Doyle down
Well, Bodie has got as far as knowing Brownie was involved, but he would have had no way to find Doyle in the huge London docks, except that Cowley had figured out the Kathy Mason connection and called Bodie in, so that they could (presumably) frighten the plan and Doyle's whereabouts out of her...
Ah, but this is Seventies/Eighties cop TV! Bodie would OF COURSE have tracked Doyle down. However, since they stuck Cowley into it, I concede we're supposed to see it as a joint rescue effort.
DiaG... so my thought is no one else would arrive in time.
It's definitely possible... depends how long Doyle would have survived, just lying there really... *g*
Well, from a dramatic standpoint...all that Bodie rushing around and stuffing tea towels up Doyles ruined jacket, the scene surely only exists to show us Bodie saving Doyle? Otherwise we'd have a scene similar to what we get in Klansmen where we cut instantly to Bodie being wheeled into the hospital and Doyle sniffing over his fallen form. Every scene, every frame, has to be there for a purpose.
Ooh yes, Fugitive - good call! And I've just realised, they come out even in that ep then! I wonder if anyone's mentioned that in a fic!
What a great poll this would be! People could vote on who saves whom in which episodes! Could be very funny.